Even Roto picks this shit up

How come they didn't mention the fact that Riley Cooper has been fucking useless, as expected. Pretty much lost 2 TD's off his statline cuz of brick hands by him and Celek, etc.

Hard to throw when you only have 1 wide receiver that's actually doing shit

This is true, Cooper has been balls. And Celek dropped that pass in the endzone although Foles threw it like a fucking laser when he was just 5 yards away rofl. Plus that drop from Celek when he was WIDE OPEN down field.

All in all, everyone from the QB to the O-Line to the WR's need to step up. But Foles is the most concerning, he's not looked like he did last year at all. Especially the way he holds onto the ball

This post was edited by Broncos15 on Sep 17 2014 02:50pm

Not trying to make excuses for him, but the only guy he's really familiar with in real time is Cooper, and he sucks the bbc

This is why Ertz is >

And Cooper can gtfo because Matthews >

Maclin is not good enough to be a true #1 receiver. We can get away with it because we are solid all around but he's just not a #1 talent. Yes Foles threw some shit balls at Maclin but Maclin got his hands on several of those passes. Hard catches but if you touch it, then catch it. He's just not a playmaker. He is a great #2 receiver but def not a #1 option.

He's not a #1 talent? lolwut

You MUST be smoking that good shit...

He's certainly a #1 talent (haven't we known this since the day we drafted him?), and has played pretty well thus far this season considering. Against Jacksonville he was open a LOT and Foles failed to find him, and against the Colts he beat his man many times where Foles struggled once again getting the ball in prime locations to him (let's be honest Foles can't get shit going down field really). It's pretty simple really, this is the NFL if you're a QB you need to be able to get the ball to your open man. Maclin has done a great job of running his routes and breaking when he's supposed to and Foles has failed to get that quick strike tempo he had last season going...

Some of it might have to do with the offensive line being so beat up, sure. But a lot of it just has to do with Foles simply not making the right passes, he had a ton of time against Indy a majority of the game and still failed to get the ball into the right window.

Plus like I said before, it's only the first 2 games of the season for Maclin who hasn't played in a regular season game in like a year and a half...considering the situation, he's played very well and of course he's only going to improve as he becomes more and more comfortable with Chip Kelly's system and playing again. People forget this is his first time actually playing in Chip Kelly's system, so he's still getting adjusted too. Once things between these two start to click, it'll be even bigger production guaranteed. The potential for more big plays are there, everyone can see that.

75+ catches, 1100-1200 yards, 8-10 TD's. Something like that is what we'll see from him by seasons end. He'll be fine, if anything we should be worrying about Cooper who is probably in for a bust of a season

This post was edited by Broncos15 on Sep 18 2014 10:57am

No he is not. For someone to be considered #1 WR talent, they have to be a playmaker. Maclin is not. He doesn't have great hands (pretty mediocre). He's fast but is not blazing fast as Desean. Decent route runner but not a great catcher with contact. Not a great runner after catch either (aside from easy bubble screens).
Not to mention he is pretty injury prone. Is he talented? Yes he is. But definitely not a playmaker like some of the #1 receivers are. He's a great #2 receiver...

Yes Foles shat the bed last two weeks and made some poor throws. But some of those poor throws, Maclin def could have caught some balls. Hard balls to catch? of course but that's what #1 receivers should be able to do. Bail out the quarterback once in a while.

Really though? I know you're not a Maclin guy, but you're selling him so short lol....

Decent route runner? He's a GOOD route runner, at minimum (and that's selling him short). Always has been since he was drafted as he's always been crisp with his routes. He's very good at catching in traffic as that's where he has done a lot of his damage over his career (a lot over the middle). He's a VERY good red zone threat as his production in that area speaks volumes over his career (also proving that he can catch in traffic just fine). His hands have been solid but could certainly be more consistent as he has some drops at times that have you pulling your hair, he has dropped some passes that he should be catching but overall you can't complain much about that as he's far from bad in that area.

Plus, I don't need to point out that Maclin's IQ is pretty high. He's a smart guy, and not only that but he scored a VERY high score (25) for a young WR on his Wonderlic (yes I know it's not a good judgement of players since some stupid players still have success, I'm just saying). He's a class act, you won't find him making it rain at the strip club or making rap videos like DeSean, he's the type of player you want in the lockeroom.

Speed wise, Maclin is fast....very fast. Not as quick as DeSean in terms of agility (that's only one aspect of speed), but let's not get carried away and act like Maclin isn't an explosive player.



Also, let's not forget in the years that they played together, Maclin had more targets, receptions, and touchdowns than D.Jax did.

In terms of athleticism:



And to top it all off, once Foles came into the picture D.Jax's production fell off. Maclin on the other hand, is a favorite of Foles and has had a lot of success with him throwing the ball. As we have seen by his 4 TD's in his last 4 games with Foles under center (dating back to 2012). Now that Maclin is playing that 'Z' role, his production is going to spike as he will be used correctly in a role that he should of been used in from the start of his career. He's going to have a big year, just wait till him & Foles start connecting on more of these passes (aka Foles starts throwing better).

This post was edited by Broncos15 on Sep 18 2014 12:36pm

Desean missed five games in 2012. Maclin only missed one game in 2012. It's only right he should have better stats lol...

and I don't know how ROTO project those scores but there is no way Maclin is faster than Desean. Maclin is def not a great catcher in traffic or at least great catcher with contact.