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Jan 8 2014 09:14pm
Quote (crunkinator @ Jan 8 2014 10:09pm)
lol why you're trying to take this way out of context is beyond me, anyone with half of brain would skim over that and realize you're an idiot.

the facts that i was simply pointing out
the packers d has statistically played the bears very well since cutlers has started (they have)
dom capers is the defensive coordinator (he is)
cutler has played abnormally below his averages vs. the packers d (he has)
Aaron Rodgers hasn't statistically over performed against the bears (he hasn't, aside from a 5td game)

it's entirely fair, and based on facts, to exclaim that capers owns the bears (which it would seem he does)

don't try to act big because you're more relevant in the forum, KID.

and i'm obviously being sarcastic and as light as possible at this pint, so relax. you win some you lose some.



also that was my reaction to finding out capers was staying in GB before you think i'm riding his dick or something.



this is the third time you have ignored my post about bears changing coaching staff and posting bullshit that doesn't matter.

ITS NOT THE SAME OFFENSE LMAO
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Jan 8 2014 09:17pm
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this is the third time you have ignored my post about bears changing coaching staff and posting bullshit that doesn't matter.

ITS NOT THE SAME OFFENSE LMAO


how is that even remotely relevant when he's owned the bears since, what? 2008?'

i'm simply pointing out the facts that validate my argument, actual statistics.
you're just getting angry.
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this is the third time you have ignored my post about bears changing coaching staff and posting bullshit that doesn't matter.

ITS NOT THE SAME OFFENSE LMAO


You are so hurt lol
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Jan 8 2014 09:20pm
Quote (crunkinator @ Jan 8 2014 10:17pm)
how is that even remotely relevant when he's owned the bears since, what? 2008?'

i'm simply pointing out the facts that validate my argument, actual statistics.
you're just getting angry.


He has owned the bears under lovie smith?

Someone the bears don't have. Capers also wasn't their d cord till 2009.

When teams change coaching staffs, they change their offensive system. The bears system has improved since the lovie days of us being in the bottom half of the league EVERY year. It was bad offense no matter who they played... Every D cord had lovie smith's number on offense cause he had horrid play callers lol. How does he have their number again?
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He has owned the bears under lovie smith?

Someone the bears don't have. Capers also wasn't their d cord till 2009.

When teams change coaching staffs, they change their offensive system. The bears system has improved since the lovie days of us being in the bottom half of the league EVERY year. It was bad offense no matter who they played... Every D cord had lovie smith's number on offense cause he had horrid play callers lol. How does he have their number again?


2008 was a typo, it was suppose to be 2009, i apologize.
and i understand they've changed coaching staffs but the results haven't proved to be much different...obviously

but what i'm most surprised about is you're under the impression that you're better now than you guys were under lovie smith, i was under the impression he was a great coach and had a chance to win a superbowl.
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Jan 8 2014 09:27pm
Quote (crunkinator @ Jan 8 2014 10:25pm)
2008 was a typo, it was suppose to be 2009, i apologize.
and i understand they've changed coaching staffs but the results haven't proved to be much different...obviously

but what i'm most surprised about is you're under the impression that you're better now than you guys were under lovie smith, i was under the impression he was a great coach and had a chance to win a superbowl.


WHAT on offense it isn't even close the bears are LIGHT YEARS from what Lovie Smith put out.

Lovie Smith offensively never ranked ONCE out of the bottom 20 of the league in offense. His "friends" he hired to bring in didn't get the job done. On defense Lovie was fantastic and probably one of the best coaches on defense i have seen.

But offense it isn't even close and that is what we are talking about right?

I never said the bears are better off with Trestman over Lovie besides on the offensive side of the ball. I think that was proven this year.

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WHAT on offense it isn't even close the bears are LIGHT YEARS from what Lovie Smith put out.

Lovie Smith offensively never ranked ONCE out of the bottom 20 of the league in offense. His "friends" he hired to bring in didn't get the job done. On offense Lovie was fantastic and probably one of the best coaches on defense i have seen.

But offense it isn't even close and that is what we are talking about right?

I never said the bears are better off with Trestman over Lovie besides on the offensive side of the ball. I think that was proven this year.


we've been talking about dom capers and his past ability to rape the bears, actually, we just recently got into the discussion of lovie smith, also a defensive mind.
where you got into the offense i'm not sure. the only offense i've talked about is the packers defense giving their offense the ball courtesy of dom capers and jay cutler, gift wrapped and nestled under a tree.
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Jan 8 2014 09:33pm
Quote (crunkinator @ Jan 8 2014 10:30pm)
we've been talking about dom capers and his past ability to rape the bears, actually, we just recently got into the discussion of lovie smith, also a defensive mind.
where you got into the offense i'm not sure. the only offense i've talked about is the packers defense giving their offense the ball courtesy of dom capers and jay cutler, gift wrapped and nestled under a tree.


Cause i'm trying to tell you to open your eye and notice that the "stats" you keep posting from 2009 till this year MEAN NOTHING. Cause the bears aren't the same team on offense. Different coaches and the offense is WAY better than anything the bears have had in the last 8 years.

You don't want to admit that so you keep posting stats and trying to prove your point that Capers has their number when in reality the bears played great offensively vs the packers this year and that should be what we are judging seeing Lovie Smith is gone and putting his stats into it is kinda unfair to the team that the bears have now

edit: holy run on sentence batman lmao

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Jan 8 2014 09:37pm
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Cause i'm trying to tell you to open your eye and notice that the "stats" you keep posting from 2009 till this year MEAN NOTHING. Cause the bears aren't the same team on offense. Different coaches and the offense is WAY better than anything the bears have had in the last 8 years.

You don't want to admit that so you keep posting stats and trying to prove your point that Capers has their number when in reality the bears played great offensively vs the packers this year and that should what we are judging seeing Lovie Smith is gone and putting his stats into it is kinda unfair to the team that the bears have now


if they're still creating turnovers with a shambled ass defense i think it's fair to assume that there's still an effect and will continue to be an effect, only against the bears though, it seems.

Quote (crunkinator @ Jan 8 2014 04:19pm)
I'm not a major hawk fan but he stays healthy, he's steadily rising as a force and he leads the team in tackles. plus hawk isn't the only one that has trouble tackling on our d, everyone has that problem it seems.




if there's one thing capers has done right it has been raping the bears lmao.


that's my very first comment, hmm, maybe that's why i brought up the past, lol....if you played poker you'd go in hard on a bluff till you had nothing left, riding it simply because of the investment.

This post was edited by crunkinator on Jan 8 2014 09:40pm
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Jan 8 2014 09:56pm
Quote (TDizzle @ Jan 8 2014 09:55pm)
I guess some Packer fans like Capers more than i thought. I thought the packer nation would be pissed if they kept him


More than I realized too. Packers' subreddit is filled with people defending him and saying it would be a mistake to get rid of him. Personally, I just can't stand seeing the same result and same excuses when we have a juggernaut for an offense with a lot of guys in their prime right now. Somebody needs to be a scapegoat for change.
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