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Jul 19 2013 06:07pm
lol wut big ben not even on top100 yet he's elite... makes sense
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Jul 19 2013 06:20pm
Quote (PopNutShanty @ Jul 19 2013 08:07pm)
lol wut big ben not even on top100 yet he's elite... makes sense


Lol
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Jul 19 2013 06:21pm
Quote (PopNutShanty @ Jul 19 2013 08:07pm)
lol wut big ben not even on top100 yet he's elite... makes sense


Big Ben is in the top 100. He's 61. I think the issue some people have is that he has 2 rings, and yet guys like Romo, RG3, and Luck are ranked higher. Imo you could argue for Luck being higher than Ben, I think he has the talent to go a long with in the NFL, but def not Romo or RG3. Imo RG3 is going to get injured and sidelined too much to get experience to be in it for the long run. And Romo? How many playoff games has he played?

/e not Romo, was thinking of someone else, but not even that other person was listed above Ben lol my mistake

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Big Ben is in the top 100. He's 61. I think the issue some people have is that he has 2 rings, and yet guys like Romo, RG3, and Luck are ranked higher. Imo you could argue for Luck being higher than Ben, I think he has the talent to go a long with in the NFL, but def not Romo or RG3. Imo RG3 is going to get injured and sidelined too much to get experience to be in it for the long run. And Romo? How many playoff games has he played?

/e not Romo, was thinking of someone else, but not even that other person was listed above Ben lol my mistake


ahh I see him now still 61... sum1s charts aren't right

but I agree dude has 2 rings proven elite. one of the best outside of the pocket qbs prol ever despite how much I h8 him lol

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Jul 19 2013 06:53pm
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ahh I see him now still 61... sum1s charts aren't right

but I agree dude has 2 rings proven elite. one of the best outside of the pocket qbs prol ever despite how much I h8 him lol


Yeah no doubt. Didn't he win 15 straight games as a rookie? 3 AFC championships, 2 rings, and gobs of records. And ya can hate the man all you want, but arguing that he isn't elite isn't as easy anymore. 3 or 4 years ago, even after his 2nd ring people still argued against him being elite. But the quality in him that I'd value (and I do) his something you can only match against him with the likes of Eli Manning is being clutch. Big Ben comes through in the worst ways like the greats above him have a hard time matching. The video I watched on NFL mobile about Big Ben's ranking brought up the same thing. I think it was Jamie Dukes who said he'd pick Big Ben over ANY qb on the list in clutch situations. Yes, over Brady/P. Manning ect
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yep 2 rings, 3 afc champs. 92 life passer rating but only 2 pro bowls lol. so much disrespect and it's like that with every afcn qb within the past 5-6 years. I think most of it has to do with some of the most dominant defenses this game has ever seen overshadowing guys like bb, flacco, Dalton isn't terrible either. It was that way back when we had air mcnair and the bungles had carson as well...
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Quote (PopNutShanty @ Jul 19 2013 09:04pm)
yep 2 rings, 3 afc champs. 92 life passer rating but only 2 pro bowls lol. so much disrespect and it's like that with every afcn qb within the past 5-6 years. I think most of it has to do with some of the most dominant defenses this game has ever seen overshadowing guys like bb, flacco, Dalton isn't terrible either. It was that way back when we had air mcnair and the bungles had carson as well...


Absolutely. The defenses in the AFC have been monsters. Tho in the NFC you do have great defensive players, but typically the rest of the D will suck. Demarcus Ware neone? But it is harder to compare AFC and NFC defenses. NFC qb's are ridiculous. Rogers, Brees, Capernick(I think he'll be a fluke) Matt Ryan, Newton, and Eli Manning. There's some really good QB's across the way.
I really don't have much beef with BB not getting pro bowls. He has to work against Brady and Manning, and imho this coming year, Luck. Competing for AFC pro bowl QB is a mo fo. But he still shines. And I'll send Eli more love, he's incredibly underrated too. 2 rings, beat the only ever 18-0 team, beat Brady 2x in the super bowl. (I still consider Brady to be the best in the NFL, outside of his cheating BS) Eli just does so bad in the regular seasons that people dis him. But here's a simple comparison that rates him perfectly. Matt Ryan vs Eli. Ryan kicks ass all season, and chokes when it's important. Manning, doesn't.
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Quote (SwanoW @ Jul 19 2013 06:21pm)
Big Ben is in the top 100. He's 61. I think the issue some people have is that he has 2 rings, and yet guys like Romo, RG3, and Luck are ranked higher. Imo you could argue for Luck being higher than Ben, I think he has the talent to go a long with in the NFL, but def not Romo or RG3. Imo RG3 is going to get injured and sidelined too much to get experience to be in it for the long run. And Romo? How many playoff games has he played?

/e not Romo, was thinking of someone else, but not even that other person was listed above Ben lol my mistake



Keep in mind... these were just player rankings. ie. The players "opinion" of who rocks and who socks.


We all know romo sucks d1ck and RG3 is a soon to be vegetable
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LEGO STEEL CITTTTTTTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

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Giants to be dominated!
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