Quote (Hako @ 11 Jul 2024 03:17)

I'm really not talking just about Fantasy. I mostly stopped playing Fantasy football years ago, it warps people's minds of the actual reality of the game. If said player doesn't score me 20+ points a week he sucks etc etc etc.

Can call me a homer all you want, but I've seen and lived a shit ton of football in my life. Mahomes is the only QB I'd trade Lawrence for right now and I'm not talking Fantasy football. Mainly because Mahomes is an alien and is already probably the best QB the NFL has ever had.

Lawrence is the real deal. People can say otherwise and that's fine, but they don't know this team, they don't watch the games and they don't know the situations. They can say they are watching, but the reality is they're not. A few clips and the red zone channel isn't actually watching.

You basically said it yourself in a previous post, "The Jags are the fucking Jags" or something along those lines. Assumptions based on the past, that you just assume is the reality of today... Because Jags...

Quote (Diablo2Enjoyer69 @ Jul 11 2024 02:07pm)

I can easily think of at least 5 QBs I'd take over him right now. TLaw is good but c'mon man, second only to Mahomes? Give me a break lol.

Quote (Cbramgar @ 11 Jul 2024 16:47)

he's in FA in the 3 leagues I'm in, I think he sucks tbh in FF and irl. looks like a 20 year gril.

Quote (Diablo2Enjoyer69 @ Jul 11 2024 05:07pm)

I can easily think of at least 5 QBs I'd take over him right now. TLaw is good but c'mon man, second only to Mahomes? Give me a break lol.

Quote (straightedgerevenge @ Jul 11 2024 05:01pm)

It’s really not easy to argue with Hako.
Just agree and move on.
Tlaw is average at best, maybe I can change my mind if he plays better ball but I mean..Andrew Luck was #1 overall and took a 2-14 team to 11-5 3 straight times, and went to the playoffs. And he got sacked more and turned the ball over less. Shit coach as well.

Quote (Hako @ Jul 12 2024 03:10am)

You don't actually watch ball, that's the problem. Luck was a turnover machine in his first 3 years. He just had a far better team around him than Lawrence had. The clots tanked that 2-14 season to make sure they got Luck. They were a 10+ win team the year prior, then they started/played Curtis Painter for over half the season for a reason.. Because he was dog shit and guaranteed to lose them games.

Shit coach? Lawrence literally had the worst coach in NFL history his rookie season... Urban Meyer LMAO.

Lawrence then took back to back #1 overall draft pick teams to back to back winning seasons... Average at best though btw. rofl

Quote (straightedgerevenge @ Jul 12 2024 01:32am)

Sure they tanked with Painter but the team was moving on from many of those players Manning had in his tenure. You’re right, I don’t watch much ball anymore because I work 60-72 hour weeks. But that doesn’t stop me from seeing mediocrity in Trevor Lawrence. Chuck Pagano was a horrible coach as well. He drove Luck’s career into the ground.

Quote (Hako @ Jul 12 2024 07:26pm)

There will never be a worse NFL coach than Urban Meyer and it isn't even close. That shit was a train wreck lol. But it let us get Travon Walker and Doug Pederson, so I'm good with it.

Quote (straightedgerevenge @ Jul 12 2024 05:24pm)

You really think TLaw is better than the likes of Burrow and Allen though? I know Allen turns the ball over quite often but he makes up for it somehow with his running ability and ability to extend the play and/or move the sticks. Burrow has been dealing with injuries as of late but he’s definitely shown that he can be that dude.

Quote (Hako @ Jul 13 2024 02:46pm)

I think he's in the same tier as Burrow and Allen. Mahomes is obviously alone in tier 1, but I'd put Trevor, Burrow and Allen in tier 2.