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Nov 6 2020 04:57pm
Quote (Flopps @ Nov 6 2020 04:55pm)
this is how trump beat clinton in the previous election


literally exactly what I said 2 posts ago so I agree with you

Quote (Bombfist @ Nov 6 2020 04:30pm)
Agreed. The only reason trump won the first time is because hillary was literally THAT detestable that even trump could beat her.


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Nov 6 2020 04:59pm
Quote (Bombfist @ Nov 6 2020 05:57pm)
literally exactly what I said 2 posts ago so I agree with you


didnt see your post tbh
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Nov 6 2020 05:03pm
Quote (Bombfist @ Nov 6 2020 05:50pm)
imo the high voter turnout was for the wrong reasons.. it wasn't because of how much you liked your candidate but because of how much you were afraid of the other one/other party. That's NOT a good sign.


I agree, and this is a whole nother level of something to debate, i fully side with you on this though, this is an absolutely terrible sign.

at the same time though, it can definitely be looked at as a good thing because it means whenever we get someone really bad that the democrats don't want they can fact check all their tweets and their supporters facebook posts so that they look like a bad option, all the while refusing to fact check anything the other side says so they don't look like as big of liars at the same time as using their much larger platform than the republicans to urge uneducated people to go out and vote, coaxing them to even vote without educating themselves.

now what needs to happen is that whenever one side has the clearly worst choice between the two, the opposite side should gain a monopoly on social media platforms way before the election so that they can do the same thing that just happened to trump.

***(i really hope my sarcasm/joking demeanor is not too hard to see in this post)***

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Nov 6 2020 05:05pm
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Nov 6 2020 05:08pm
Quote (Flopps @ Nov 6 2020 02:55pm)
this is how trump beat clinton in the previous election


What Flopps said is accurate (I guess you said it too lol, I missed your previous post), but Biden has much higher favorability and public opinion than Hilary ever did. I know there's plenty of hate for him, but most of that is coming from the right. Whether it be socialism claims (which is still too funny), him having dementia, or him being a pedophile. Trump has had negative popularity his entire Presidency, but he's got about 50-60% of Republican voters that makeup his base and they fucking LOVE HIM. There's always a huge push to vote for the Democrats, since more voters generally means the younger generations are voting, which is statistically good for them. Trump being able to almost match those numbers and surpass the all-time leading in the middle of a pandemic when he's telling everyone to vote in person is insanely impressive and speaks volumes to how popular he is among Republicans.

I know myself and most of the Democrats I'm friend with don't think highly of Biden, but there are those people who think both Hilary and Obama are saints who never did anything wrong, soooooooo, there's a lot of blind adoration on both sides of the ball lol. Hate may have propelled the vote into historic numbers, but the loving base is there to build it up to that.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Nov 6 2020 05:30pm
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Nov 6 2020 05:24pm
Republicans already moving to block a new stimulus package, since it'll help Dems approval.

Hmmm, I feel like someone called this earlier.

e: But yes, it's Biden who's against them lol

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Nov 6 2020 05:33pm
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^Bombfirst What Flopps said is accurate, but Biden has much higher favorability and public opinion than Hilary ever did. I know there's plenty of hate for him, but most of that is coming from the right. Whether it be socialism claims (which is still too funny), him having dementia, or him being a pedophile. Trump has had negative popularity his entire Presidency, but he's got about 50-60% of Republican voters that makeup his base and they fucking LOVE HIM. There's always a huge push to vote for the Democrats, since more voters generally means the younger generations are voting, which is statistically good for them. Trump being able to almost match those numbers and surpass the all-time leading in the middle of a pandemic when he's telling everyone to vote in person is insanely impressive and speaks volumes to how popular he is among Republicans.

I know myself and most of the Democrats I'm friend with don't think highly of Biden, but there are those people who think both Hilary and Obama are saints who never did anything wrong, soooooo, there's a lot of blind adoration on both sides of the ball lol. Hate may have propelled the vote into historic numbers, but the loving base is there to build it up to that.


Well there's no doubt he has higher favorability and public opinion than Hillary. I don't even think there's that much hate for Biden tbh. I wont argue there's passion amongst trump voters for Trump, but as has been pointed out even many republicans dont like trump. The disparity was that there wasn't a ton of passion for Biden from democrats, just a lot hate for Trump to the point they are willing to vote just about anything that breathes into office that the DNC puts forward. My main concern is that democratic voters think they are solving a problem but they really aren't. The problem is that the establishment has gamed the system with this political climate and keeps putting forward their "front runner" candidates that they can control when there's better candidates available that would actually be in office representing the people for the people, and nobody cares because they just want "the other guy out". This isn't even anything new, this has been going on in this country for decades where the voters are so divided that the establishment elite are able to get away with it.
There's better candidates in the primaries almost every voting cycle that could pull the country together, and yet they never get anywhere.

When we get voting records broken in the primaries ill be impressed.
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Nov 6 2020 05:42pm
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Well there's no doubt he has higher favorability and public opinion than Hillary. I don't even think there's that much hate for Biden tbh. I wont argue there's passion amongst trump voters for Trump, but as has been pointed out even many republicans dont like trump. The disparity was that there wasn't a ton of passion for Biden from democrats, just a lot hate for Trump to the point they are willing to vote just about anything that breathes into office that the DNC puts forward. My main concern is that democratic voters think they are solving a problem but they really aren't. The problem is that the establishment has gamed the system with this political climate and keeps putting forward their "front runner" candidates that they can control when there's better candidates available that would actually be in office representing the people for the people, and nobody cares because they just want "the other guy out". This isn't even anything new, this has been going on in this country for decades where the voters are so divided that the establishment elite are able to get away with it.
There's better candidates in the primaries almost every voting cycle that could pull the country together, and yet they never get anywhere.

When we get voting records broken in the primaries ill be impressed.


While the DNC (or RNC) does everything they can to support their guy, it's still on the people to get out and vote during the primaries. Just like what happened in the polls/primaries with Trump. They didn't want him anywhere near the election, but he came in like a bat out of hell and rounded support like no other. Bernie had backing, but he doesn't have the type of blind adoration Trump does, not enough to force the parties hand. We saw how much just claiming someone is a socialist can hurt you down in Florida this election, even with a minority group heavily disparaged by the President. Sanders was a much better candidate when it comes to how much he cares about the country, his lack of vested interest, and he has good ideas, although some of them are not feasible in this country. Problem with these more left leaning candidates, their electability just isn't as high as the vanilla paste option, which is why he lost in the primaries twice now. I voted for him both times, although I'm incredibly skeptical that he would have been able to come through on a single one of his promises, but he would have legitimately tried to make the country a better place, while Biden will protect the party and Trump will only protect himself.
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Nov 6 2020 06:17pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Nov 6 2020 06:24pm)
Republicans already moving to block a new stimulus package, since it'll help Dems approval.

Hmmm, I feel like someone called this earlier.

e: But yes, it's Biden who's against them lol


The dick measuriing contest between mitch and pelosi continues
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Nov 6 2020 06:42pm
Quote (8sssssssssssssD @ Nov 6 2020 07:17pm)
The dick measuriing contest between mitch and pelosi continues


it's so stupid lol

they'd rather have control and clout than helping human beings
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Nov 6 2020 07:00pm
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