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Jan 24 2018 07:04pm
Quote (DeShaunWatson69 @ Jan 24 2018 09:01pm)
Thats Jade, animea already said he enjoys having the refs in his pocket, and pats will need them in the SB.


Yes, i'm more worried about the eagles than the jaguars. Most complete team we'll face all season/post season.
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Jan 24 2018 07:12pm
Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Jan 24 2018 05:03pm)
Making up things per usual, not surprised.

Go find a quote of me saying the refs "called the game straight up" or anything remotely similar.

Good luck.

I know you won't bother though because you know i've never said such thing.

Refs miss holding calls all the freakin' time.


Yes of course refs miss calls, they're human... The problem is they don't miss EVERY SINGLE CALL in a game for one team, but then call that same crap on the other team.

If the refs missed a couple calls in this game, nobody would say a thing. The problem is that they missed so many blatant calls that would have went against you guys, (which would have kept drives alive for us, like they did for you guys) is why half the country was upset about this unfair officiating.

This was historically bad and lopsided. A team being called for only 1 penalty in a PLAYOFF game never happens.

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Jan 24 2018 07:18pm
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Yes of course refs miss calls, they're human... The problem is they don't miss EVERY SINGLE CALL in a game for one team, but then call that same crap on the other team.

If the refs missed a couple calls in this game, nobody would say a thing. The problem is that they missed so many blatant calls that would have went against you guys, (which would have kept drives alive for us, like they did for you guys) is why half the country was upset about this unfair officiating.

This was historically bad and lopsided. A team being called for only 1 penalty in a AFC championship game never happens.


It's happened before in 2011. So fake news.

Maybe clete blakemen was making up for his atrocious no call/flag pick up in the patriots vs panthers game in 2013 that more than likely effectively cost us a win. 😂

It is what it is. We got the calls/no calls BUT we also made the plays when it counts (jaguars didn't). If Jaguars had a good passing QB they probably would've won.


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Jan 24 2018 07:28pm
Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Jan 24 2018 05:18pm)
It's happened before in 2011. So fake news.

Maybe clete blakemen was making up for his atrocious no call/flag pick up in the patriots vs panthers game in 2013 that more than likely effectively cost us a win. 😂

It is what it is. We got the calls/no calls BUT we also made the plays when it counts (jaguars didn't). If Jaguars had a good passing QB they probably would've won.


Yes one time... 7 years ago, and guess who it was? The Pats... Shocker right..

Going conservative cost us, yes. Still doesn't change the fact that, this game is pretty much over if called evenly.

A good passing QB? You do know that Bortles was out playing Brady, up until that final quarter when our Defense went into a basic soft zone coverage and they finished with literally identical numbers right? But I guess Brady isn't any good at passing either..

If Chung isn't mugging Lewis we win that game also. 2 drives were stalled in that late 2nd half, simply because of those two blatant non called penalties on Chung. Both of those are a 1st down and we're running at least 2-3 more minutes off the clock each possession.
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Jan 24 2018 07:44pm
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Yes one time... 7 years ago, and guess who it was? The Pats... Shocker right..

Going conservative cost us, yes. Still doesn't change the fact that, this game is pretty much over if called evenly.

A good passing QB? You do know that Bortles was out playing Brady, up until that final quarter when our Defense went into a basic soft zone coverage and they finished with literally identical numbers right? But I guess Brady isn't any good at passing either..

If Chung isn't mugging Lewis we win that game also. 2 drives were stalled in that late 2nd half, simply because of those two blatant non called penalties on Chung. Both of those are a 1st down and we're running at least 2-3 more minutes off the clock each possession.


Yes bortles was good for 3 quarters, good not great (bortels threw 1 TD pass all game and didn't even get 300 yards passing vs a team that in the reg season had like 6x consecutive opposing QBs throwing for 300+ yards ... ) brady threw what, 3 TDs? Too much conservative game plan by your jags (because Marrone/your OC knows bortles is limited in capacity as a throwing QB) that we eventually figured out and once we won the field position battle in the 4th quarter it was over.


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Jan 24 2018 08:07pm
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Yes bortles was good for 3 quarters, good not great (bortels threw 1 TD pass all game and didn't even get 300 yards passing vs a team that in the reg season had like 6x consecutive opposing QBs throwing for 300+ yards ... ) brady threw what, 3 TDs? Too much conservative game plan by your jags (because Marrone/your OC knows bortles is limited in capacity as a throwing QB) that we eventually figured out and once we won the field position battle in the 4th quarter it was over.


Brady had 2 TD.

and I love how you morons claim they went conservative because of Bortles. Bortles was like 13-15 for like 160 yards at one point in that first half. He had 12 straight completions or something like that at one point. Exactly what did he do in that first half for the coaching staff to get conservative, or lose trust in him? Slicing that Pats Defense up and down the field showed that he was a liability? Stupidest shit I've heard in my entire life. They tried to run the ball and run the clock in the 2nd half. Bortles had this team up 10, with 10 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. That's a fact.

Field position and them trying to run clock is what happened in the 2nd half. We had 7 possessions in the 2nd half. All of them but one (our final possession), they ran on first down. For 2 yards, 1 yard, 1 yard, 1 yard, no gain, -1 yards. Our field position on those possessions were from our own 25, our 10, our 9, our 33 (should have been the Myles Jack TD and game over), our 16, our 10 and our 25. They tried to run clock way too soon and it cost them. It had nothing to do with Bortles' ability, or lack there of.

But let me guess, you probably believe the Defense going conservative was because of Bortles also huh?

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Jan 24 2018 08:29pm
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Brady had 2 TD.

and I love how you morons claim they went conservative because of Bortles. Bortles was like 13-15 for like 160 yards at one point in that first half. He had 12 straight completions or something like that at one point. Exactly what did he do in that first half for the coaching staff to get conservative, or lose trust in him? Slicing that Pats Defense up and down the field showed that he was a liability? Stupidest shit I've heard in my entire life. They tried to run the ball and run the clock in the 2nd half. Bortles had this team up 10, with 10 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. That's a fact.

Field position and them trying to run clock is what happened in the 2nd half. We had 7 possessions in the 2nd half. All of them but one (our final possession), they ran on first down. For 2 yards, 1 yard, 1 yard, 1 yard, no gain, -1 yards. Our field position on those possessions were from our own 25, our 10, our 9, our 33 (should have been the Myles Jack TD and game over), our 16, our 10 and our 25. They tried to run clock way too soon and it cost them. It had nothing to do with Bortles' ability, or lack there of.

But let me guess, you probably believe the Defense going conservative was because of Bortles also huh?


Lol. They knew a mistake was probably inevitable? Don't forget he overthrew a receiver which almost resulted in a Stephon Gilmore INT (prior to the Gilmore pass breakup on 3rd down). Also we were starting to get pressure late in the game on bortles (tre flowers, james harrison).

A hypothetical Myles Jack TD wouldn't have been gauranteed game over. Patriots overcame a larger deficit vs the falcons in last year's super bowl (we all know how that turned out).

I don't have a good explanation to why the defense played soft zone late in the game other than they didn't want to give up a BIG play. (By BIG play i mean like a 40+ yard play/TD not a 15-20 yard play).

If you guys didn't take out gronk in the first half it couldve been a totally different game so please don't act like everything was against you.
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Keep this pats cancer talk in the cancer bowl or cancer fan thread.
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#Jaguars D final blitz total -- 129 out of 783 drop-backs (16.5 percent). ... Of 62 sacks, 43 came on a four-man rush.


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Opponents blitz vs. Bortles this year -- 197 of 688 drop-backs (28.6 percent). Bortles had 12 TDs, 3 INTs and saked three times vs. extra rushers. #Jaguars


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