Lmao, all you snowflakes so quick to try and bully people. Go suckle your moms tit in your safe space.
The wall was being built before he was president, and it has continued to build during his presidency.

We've been over this, Trump claiming he did something, is not the same as doing it.

How well did he drain the swamp?
How about Mexico paying for the wall? Glad that won't be a hole in the the taxpayers pocket for the next three decades.
How about standing up to Russia? He sure did a good job of that.
How about when he repealed Obamacare when he had the Senate for four years?
Oh, remember when he guaranteed 6 weeks paid leave for everyone?
The economy would EASILY grow by 4% every year under Trump, remember that?
My favorite is when he expanded the carry law to all 50 states, that was a good one.
Oh ya, he kicked China out of WHO as well, that was good.

I could do this all fucking day lol. He kept roughly 20% of his promises, about the same or a little worse than all of them.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Nov 6 2020 03:41pm

of course you feel that way, i've tried having a level-headed conversation with you privately and it became obvious as fuck that having one in public would go 10x worse for me than the shit storm that was the private convo where i tried being nice to you for an entire 2-3 days of msgs all while being bashed by you over and over.

trust me i know that arguing with you is a pointless afair you are stuck in your ways, you are an intelligent dude in many respects tho so i try my best to ignore it when you attack me and try to claim such inaccurate things about me. it's pretty bad when even you yourself admit you aren't a good person like you did in our private convo lol.

that being said, i never claimed that trumplers weren't delusional, i never claimed they were level headed.
you are an absolute fucking imbecile if you honestly believe the only people who voted for trump were trumplers, when there was a great many who fucking hate trump with a passion but fear what things will be like with biden.

I just said your reasoning was nonsense, because it was, as it usually is. There are plenty of good Trump supporters, but that doesn't mean they're reasonable or that they're able to think objectively about this shit. If someone's reason for hating Biden and wanting Trump is completely false or irrational, and if they're buying into the Trump paranoia, they're a Trumpler, end of story. If their reasoning for distrusting Biden is based in fiction, but they acknowledge what Trump is doing right now is dangerous and stupid, as many Republican senators have, they're reasonable and most likely good people.


e: Sorry for the typos in there. At work and just responding between tickets, didn't even realize the sentence was straight broken until I reread it a few minutes later lol.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Nov 6 2020 03:47pm

this conversation started once again with you trying to claim that something i said couldn't possibly be true.

yet i guarantee once biden is declared here, and people go fucking nuts about corruption and things being rigged, that once a re-count happens and voter fraud is 100% investigated and comes back clean, that there will be a drastic drop off in complaining about corruption and this rigged election to the point that within 2 months it will barely be on my newsfeed anymore. which as stated in the very first post i made that you quoted and commented your disagreement with, is the only thing i personally care about. i'm tired of seeing the malarkey

That is because not every trump voter is fucking insane and would follow him to the end of the earth believing anything he says. and that was the entire point i was trying to make and i was pretty damn obvious about said point i was making.



once again, the king of back pedals, i didn't even list any reasons at the point in which you disagreed with me and yet here you are again, in a situation basically admitting my original statement in the conversation would have been correct had i argued with you a little bit better, when in actuallity it doesn't matter if i argued with you to your satisfaction, the original point of what i said was true.

that's the main thing i dislike about you dude, if someone argues with you the way you want them to, then you're good. if they don't meet your standards of being a completely argumentative dickwad then you treat them like garbage.

i still respect you, but god damn you have some deep seeded issues with needing to argue, i wonder if you come from a 2 parent house hold or not.

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Nov 6 2020 03:52pm

Read the edit if you need clarification. It'll never be 100% cleared, since they'll continue to make shit up... like they have every last time a Democrat has won the Whitehouse, but never before has there been a base of supporters anywhere near this rabid when it comes to supporting a candidate. We've also never had a President actively egging conspiracy theories on, this is all new territory and you're giving that 30% who still believes there was no Russian interference, Trump did nothing wrong in Ukraine and that he's kept most of his promises way too much credit. We haven't been able to reason with these people for four years, why would that change now? It's over half of the Trump voters who are like this and who will continue to be like this, except for maybe if he abandons the country for legal reasons, that might be the only thing that could push a small percentage of those voters away from him.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Nov 6 2020 03:59pm

everything you said here is 100% factual and i cannot disagree with any of it, i still believe that once a recount occurs there will be a drastic drop off in complaints about the election being rigged (it obviously wasn't) and that within 2 months it will have mostly disappeared from my newsfeed*

yes the shit you are saying about half or a bit over half of Trump SUPPORTERS is true. but the trump supporters are not the only ones who voted for him. there are anti-biden people who fucking hate his guts who also voted for him, that will also be calling for a recount saying shit is rigged, and those people will be sensible enough to stop bitching once a single re-count occurs and voter fraud is completely ruled out. Those people, ontop of the under half of his supporters, all shutting up about it once the recount occurs and the voter fraud is ruled out, will create a drastic drop off in the posts i will see on my newsfeed, i dont normally keep many die hard trumplers on my facebook.

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Nov 6 2020 04:00pm

I heard if they can't get an accurate count they're gonna settle it via AI WW ft3

Biden up 4k in Georgia now

Recount shouldnt affect anything.

Your dad and people on your feed may not be fanatical, but how do they feel about the Mueller investigation? Do they believe that proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was massive Russian interference in the election, which led to multiple indictments, arrests, and seizures of assets that paid for the cost of the investigation multiple times over was a "witch hunt" or a "Waste of taxpayer money"? Do they believe that a well documented extortion of a foreign ally was business as usual because a Republican congress up for reelection said it was? Do they feel that Trump kept most his promises or do they still believe he's a Washington outsider? All of the ones I've talked to, even the *mild* ones, believe these things without a moment of hesitation. I personally can't see this being all that different. Trump has this extraordinary power to piss in your face while telling you he's saving your life, and people just believe him.

The normal republicans out there, the good people who have unfortunately allowed misinformation and a snake oil salesmen to sway their opinions over these past four years will eventually stop posting about it al the time, but I don't see Republicans ever fully letting go of it. They will always believe they got cheated here, they just won't be as vocal about it. Only time will tell and hell, Trump could still win, maybe he'll convince the Supreme Court to toss out any votes that weren't counted by midnight on 11/3.