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Oct 8 2013 06:23pm
Quote (xnozx. @ Oct 7 2013 10:00pm)
We basically need in order:

OL
LB
CB
DE

We need a C, RG and LG.
We need a #2 CB opposite Prince.
We need an ILB, and a SAM. I still believe Jacquian Williams can be a starter at WILL.
We need to replace Tuck and possibly Kiwi. Kiwi shouldn't be a main part of the rotation. For the future, we have JPP and Moore as the bookends but not much behind them.


werent u the one claiming giants pass rush isnt a problem?
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Oct 8 2013 06:34pm
Quote (SubZor @ Oct 8 2013 08:23pm)
werent u the one claiming giants pass rush isnt a problem?


I believe most sensible people were saying that, actually.
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Oct 9 2013 05:29pm
Quote (SubZor @ Oct 8 2013 08:23pm)
werent u the one claiming giants pass rush isnt a problem?


When have I said that? We haven't had a good pass rush in 2 years. It's a big problem.

Not sure why people always tie these ridiculous statements (that I've never said), to me.
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Quote (Grizzy_Green @ Oct 8 2013 12:41pm)
The #1 thing the Giants need to do is this..STOP BEING SO FUCKING STINGY WITH YOUR MONEY YOU PIECES OF SHIT...seriously this team is ridiculous..they don't spend shit.

QB: Keep Eli, get rid of Painter and honestly don't know about Nassib. I don't think he'll be anything special in this league. Can't even beat out Curtis Painter...
RB: Keep Wilson, Jacobs, Cox. It's time to let go of Andre Brown. I loved the guy even before last year but he can't stay healthy. Jacobs is a leader on this team even now. Keep him until he retires.
FB: They keep rolling with Pascoe for some reason..what's the deal with Conner? I think that if he is healthy and can perform well this season (if given some playing time lol..) he will be better than Hynoski. I like Hynoski and all but Conner is just a physical monster. It all depends on what happens this season here.
WR: Keep Cruz and Randle. Nicks is gone. He plays hurt all the time and will cost way too much. Won't be able to do much else if we resign him. Rest can go. Draft a few guys in the middle of next year's draft or sign a few.
TE: Keep Myers, Robinson and Pascoe. I think we're fine here. I'm pretty sure Myers just hasn't caught on to the playbook. I don't see them going after anyone in free agency and there is no one that can produce behind him. Myers with a year under his belt in the system should be much better than any other option. Pascoe is versatile so he's a no brainer. Robinson is young and talented and they seem high on him.
OL: Keep Beatty, Pugh, Booth (if cheap), Diehl (if cheap for depth), and Brewer. Draft OL in the 1st and 2nd rounds please.
DE: Keep JPP, Moore, Kiwanuka (if cheap for depth). It's time for Tuck to go.
DT: Keep Joseph, Jenkins, Hankins. No need for huge veteran DT's any more. I like what Patterson has done this year but it's time to get quicker on the DL. Also keep Kuhn if healthy.
LB: Keep Paysinger, Williams, Bradford if he performs, and Beason depending on how he plays this year. Draft a stud MLB somewhere in the draft. I think Paysinger is the best of our current LB's.
CB: Keep Prince, McBride, Hosley, Thomas (if cheap), and Webster (if cheap and solely for depth). Webster won't start again in this league after this year for the Giants I hope.
S: Keep Hill, Brown and Taylor. Hill is the best player on our defense hands down. Very instinctive and very athletic. Taylor is still a question mark and hasn't been very promising on specials. Rolle stinks and needs to go. Mundy isn't fast enough.
K/P: Get a new kicker rofl.. Weatherford hasn't been great this year but keep him.

I'm probably keeping more than most would. Would keep Coughlin, need a new OC and DC though. Would have fired Fewell and Gilbride on the spot against Philly. After Fewell allowed that long run on 3rd down to Vick and after Gilbride refused to run the ball 3 times in a row in the redzone after 5 yards on 1st down.

Need to prioritize OL in this draft and off season. Need to draft a linebacker as well and another defensive end. Would also try to grab a quarterback in the middle of the draft if someone drops.

Positives of this year:
We can't possibly play any worse on offense LOL
Prince is a stud
Hill is a stud
Paysinger can be a stud
Our DT's are solid
Cruz has continued his solid play
Randle is doing well
Pugh is better than I thought he would be at tackle
McBride is showing glimpses of brilliance. Needs to be more consistent and can be a solid 3rd corner.
We are only 2 games back in the NFC East ROFL
Our OC and DC can't possibly get any worse

Negatives:
Tuck is garbage
JPP is playing like garbage (showed he is getting back to his usual self this past weekend but he's still not 100%)
Herzlich was not the LB everyone thought he was (seems I was the only Giants fan that didn't think he could start in this league)
Williams is weak right now and it's showing
Rolle can't tackle per usual (should have been cut after last year)
Coughlin may be losing his touch (some bad management this past weekend and how he's handled Wilson and Randle)
Nicks always gimps around
Entire offense is out of synch

Will be interesting to see how the NFC East plays out though. If we can win our remaining division games there is a good chance we will win the division. We have played our best games against division opponents so anything is possible right now.


-I wish we would use Connor as well... Pascoe sucks.
-Myers is the worst TE in Giants history... I'd rather have Travis Beckum... and no I'm not joking. Myers is the worst blocker I've ever seen and his receiving game is just as atrocious.
-Boothe is gone after this season, he's a FA. He's been bad this year too, which is surprising because he was VERY SOLID last season and in the past.


I don't think Paysinger will ever be a stud but he can be a very solid/good starter. He's not not a playmaker but he's continues to improve so there's hope he turns into a good starter.

Will Hill is a STUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD... so much promise... he FLYS around the field and can lay the WOOD

-Herzlich, it's not that nobody questioned if he could start, it's that because of his story and the fact hes such a good kid, everyone HOPED the best for him and wanted it to work out for him so bad)
-Williams is still a stud, I have hope he will be an very down starter in the future. Needs to add a little more size.

Tuck, love him to death but his time is up here.
Roll too.... too expensive, if we could get him for cheap I'd love to keep him around. He's SOLID.
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Oct 9 2013 05:49pm

David Wilson May Miss Rest Of Season

http://nypost.com/2013/10/09/david-w...giants-season/

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"The neck injury second-year running back David Wilson suffered on the last play of the first quarter last Sunday against the Eagles is likely going to keep him off the field for several weeks – and perhaps longer.

    Wilson has an issue with a disk in his neck. He is undergoing treatment and will seek additional medical advice. He will travel to Los Angeles and will see neck specialist Dr. Robert Watkins on Monday.

    Wilson was hurt when defensive end Cedric Thornton dropped Wilson for a 3-yard loss on a play that continued long enough for Wilson to be flung down into the end zone for what could have been ruled a safety but was not."


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Oh joy........ when it rains is POURS on this team... unfuckingreal... it really is.
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Oct 9 2013 08:54pm
Quote (xnozx. @ Oct 9 2013 07:39pm)
-I wish we would use Connor as well... Pascoe sucks.
-Myers is the worst TE in Giants history... I'd rather have Travis Beckum... and no I'm not joking. Myers is the worst blocker I've ever seen and his receiving game is just as atrocious.
-Boothe is gone after this season, he's a FA. He's been bad this year too, which is surprising because he was VERY SOLID last season and in the past.


I don't think Paysinger will ever be a stud but he can be a very solid/good starter. He's not not a playmaker but he's continues to improve so there's hope he turns into a good starter.

Will Hill is a STUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD... so much promise... he FLYS around the field and can lay the WOOD

-Herzlich, it's not that nobody questioned if he could start, it's that because of his story and the fact hes such a good kid, everyone HOPED the best for him and wanted it to work out for him so bad)
-Williams is still a stud, I have hope he will be an very down starter in the future. Needs to add a little more size.

Tuck, love him to death but his time is up here.
Roll too.... too expensive, if we could get him for cheap I'd love to keep him around. He's SOLID.


Disagree about Pascoe and how the Giants have used their tight ends. I realize Myers isn't a great blocker. But it's his first year in such a ridiculous system. Hopefully with Gilbride gone soon he will flourish. Pascoe is a great blocker, they need to stop using him at fullback though..fucking stupid. He's not a lead blocker. He's a good blocking tight end, not a fullback. This is the versatility I like about him though.
Disagree about Boothe. He may not be playing his best right now but his best is better than most on our current roster lol.
Disagree about Paysinger. I think he can be a stud. I do, however, agree about Williams. I think he can be a stud as well. Needs to add some weight while maintaining his speed.
Agree about Tuck. Love him, but gotta let him go.
I disagree about Rolle. He fucking sucks.

This post was edited by Grizzy_Green on Oct 9 2013 08:55pm
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Oct 10 2013 11:05am
Quote (xnozx. @ Oct 9 2013 03:29pm)
When have I said that? We haven't had a good pass rush in 2 years. It's a big problem.

Not sure why people always tie these ridiculous statements (that I've never said), to me.


u said the defense eli and rb is fine. u said the oline was trash and the main reason giants were losing after week 1 2 and 3

u made fun of me claiming i dont watch giants game when i said david wilson oline and lack of pass rush was the problem

This post was edited by SubZor on Oct 10 2013 11:06am
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Quote (xnozx. @ Oct 9 2013 07:49pm)
David Wilson May Miss Rest Of Season

    http://nypost.com/2013/10/09/david-w...giants-season/

   

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Oh joy........ when it rains is POURS on this team... unfuckingreal... it really is.


hey look at the brightside .. TEDDY BRIDGEWATER !
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Oct 10 2013 06:35pm
O/U 42 interceptions this year for eli ?
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Oct 10 2013 06:43pm
So xnoz tell us more about how eli is a top 5 QB
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