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Oct 7 2013 11:24pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Oct 8 2013 01:19am)
#22 pass blocking tho.


LOL


#222 maybe behind college and high school O-lines
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Oct 7 2013 11:44pm
How stoked would you be if you came back and took the division? Just saying that division isn't making it hard for you to do it.
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Oct 7 2013 11:53pm
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How stoked would you be if you came back and took the division? Just saying that division isn't making it hard for you to do it.


Honestly I would be esctatic but in the bigger picture, not really considering we need new coordinators and if we won the division we wouldn't get new ones.

0% chance we even win 6 games this season. Part of me is hoping we only win 1 game and get the best pick and either draft Clowney or flip the picks for multiple 1sts/2nd's.
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Oct 7 2013 11:57pm
Quote (xnozx. @ Oct 8 2013 01:53am)
Honestly I would be esctatic but in the bigger picture, not really considering we need new coordinators and if we won the division we wouldn't get new ones.

0% chance we even win 6 games this season. Part of me is hoping we only win 1 game and get the best pick and either draft Clowney or flip the picks for multiple 1sts/2nd's.


No need a guy that shows up on game day and says he can't play.
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Oct 8 2013 12:00am

We basically need in order:

OL
LB
CB
DE

We need a C, RG and LG.
We need a #2 CB opposite Prince.
We need an ILB, and a SAM. I still believe Jacquian Williams can be a starter at WILL.
We need to replace Tuck and possibly Kiwi. Kiwi shouldn't be a main part of the rotation. For the future, we have JPP and Moore as the bookends but not much behind them.
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Oct 8 2013 12:02am
KEEP:

Coughlin
Eli
Cruz
Nicks
Randle
Beatty
Pugh
Wilson
Hynoski (?)
Robinson
Andre Brown (?)
Stevie Brown (?)
Weatherford
DeOssie
Joseph
JPP
Moore
Hankins
Prince
Webster (Needs to take a pay cut, injuries starting to pile up)
Will Hill
Hosley
McBride
Kiwi (purely rotation/situational if he's cheap)
Ross (If he'll come back)
T2 (Not sure about this one)
Patterson
Jenkins
Kuhn (?)
Beason (?)
Paysinger
Jacquian
Cox
Donnell
Cooper Taylor

= about 35 give or take a few. Bunch of question marks in there though.


GO:

Killdrive
Fewell
Baas
Cordle
Tuck
Jernigan
Snee
Boothe
Rivers
Herzlich
Pascoe
Rolle



Literally everyone else is can GO or is expendable with a few young guys, hoping they pan out if they stick around.

Anyone disagree, agree? Did I forget anyone?

Feel free to make your own list.




Griz/tek/leo/mustang, thoughts?
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Oct 8 2013 06:07am
Quote (xnozx. @ Oct 8 2013 01:02am)
[FONT="Times New Roman"]KEEP:[/FONT]

Coughlin
Eli
Cruz
Nicks
Randle
Beatty
Pugh
Wilson
Hynoski (?)
Robinson
Andre Brown (?)
Stevie Brown (?)
Weatherford
DeOssie
Joseph
JPP
Moore
Hankins
Prince
Webster (Needs to take a pay cut, injuries starting to pile up)
Will Hill
Hosley
McBride
Kiwi (purely rotation/situational if he's cheap)
Ross (If he'll come back)
T2 (Not sure about this one)
Patterson
Jenkins
Kuhn (?)
Beason (?)
Paysinger
Jacquian
Cox
Donnell
Cooper Taylor

= about 35 give or take a few. Bunch of question marks in there though.


[FONT="Times New Roman"]GO:[/FONT]

Killdrive
Fewell
Baas
Cordle
Tuck
Jernigan
Snee
Boothe
Rivers
Herzlich
Pascoe
Rolle



Literally everyone else is can GO or is expendable with a few young guys, hoping they pan out if they stick around.

Anyone disagree, agree? Did I forget anyone?

Feel free to make your own list.




Griz/tek/leo/mustang, thoughts?


not me? :(
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Oct 8 2013 06:44am
Keep


Coughlin
Eli
Cruz
Nicks
Randle
Beatty
Pugh
Wilson
Hynoski (?)
Robinson
Andre Brown (?)
Stevie Brown (?)
Weatherford
DeOssie
Joseph
JPP
Moore
Hankins
Prince
Will Hill
Hosley
Ross (If he'll come back)
Patterson
Jenkins
Kuhn (?)
Beason (?)
Paysinger
Jacquian
Cox
Donnell
Cooper Taylor



Go


Killdrive
Fewell
Baas
Cordle
Tuck
Webster
Jernigan
Snee
Boothe
Thomas
Rivers
Herzlich
Pascoe
Kiwi (if, like you said he'd be cheap I'd move him back, but I doubt he'll be in my affordable range)
Rolle
Jacobs (if it's even needed to be said)
McBride





Honestly, if we could get a good return for Nicks right now/in the coming weeks, I'd even trade him. We need some good picks to work with.

Our OL/CB/LB situations are just... atrocious.

This post was edited by 18_1 on Oct 8 2013 06:45am
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Oct 8 2013 10:41am
The #1 thing the Giants need to do is this..STOP BEING SO FUCKING STINGY WITH YOUR MONEY YOU PIECES OF SHIT...seriously this team is ridiculous..they don't spend shit.

QB: Keep Eli, get rid of Painter and honestly don't know about Nassib. I don't think he'll be anything special in this league. Can't even beat out Curtis Painter...
RB: Keep Wilson, Jacobs, Cox. It's time to let go of Andre Brown. I loved the guy even before last year but he can't stay healthy. Jacobs is a leader on this team even now. Keep him until he retires.
FB: They keep rolling with Pascoe for some reason..what's the deal with Conner? I think that if he is healthy and can perform well this season (if given some playing time lol..) he will be better than Hynoski. I like Hynoski and all but Conner is just a physical monster. It all depends on what happens this season here.
WR: Keep Cruz and Randle. Nicks is gone. He plays hurt all the time and will cost way too much. Won't be able to do much else if we resign him. Rest can go. Draft a few guys in the middle of next year's draft or sign a few.
TE: Keep Myers, Robinson and Pascoe. I think we're fine here. I'm pretty sure Myers just hasn't caught on to the playbook. I don't see them going after anyone in free agency and there is no one that can produce behind him. Myers with a year under his belt in the system should be much better than any other option. Pascoe is versatile so he's a no brainer. Robinson is young and talented and they seem high on him.
OL: Keep Beatty, Pugh, Booth (if cheap), Diehl (if cheap for depth), and Brewer. Draft OL in the 1st and 2nd rounds please.
DE: Keep JPP, Moore, Kiwanuka (if cheap for depth). It's time for Tuck to go.
DT: Keep Joseph, Jenkins, Hankins. No need for huge veteran DT's any more. I like what Patterson has done this year but it's time to get quicker on the DL. Also keep Kuhn if healthy.
LB: Keep Paysinger, Williams, Bradford if he performs, and Beason depending on how he plays this year. Draft a stud MLB somewhere in the draft. I think Paysinger is the best of our current LB's.
CB: Keep Prince, McBride, Hosley, Thomas (if cheap), and Webster (if cheap and solely for depth). Webster won't start again in this league after this year for the Giants I hope.
S: Keep Hill, Brown and Taylor. Hill is the best player on our defense hands down. Very instinctive and very athletic. Taylor is still a question mark and hasn't been very promising on specials. Rolle stinks and needs to go. Mundy isn't fast enough.
K/P: Get a new kicker rofl.. Weatherford hasn't been great this year but keep him.

I'm probably keeping more than most would. Would keep Coughlin, need a new OC and DC though. Would have fired Fewell and Gilbride on the spot against Philly. After Fewell allowed that long run on 3rd down to Vick and after Gilbride refused to run the ball 3 times in a row in the redzone after 5 yards on 1st down.

Need to prioritize OL in this draft and off season. Need to draft a linebacker as well and another defensive end. Would also try to grab a quarterback in the middle of the draft if someone drops.

Positives of this year:
We can't possibly play any worse on offense LOL
Prince is a stud
Hill is a stud
Paysinger can be a stud
Our DT's are solid
Cruz has continued his solid play
Randle is doing well
Pugh is better than I thought he would be at tackle
McBride is showing glimpses of brilliance. Needs to be more consistent and can be a solid 3rd corner.
We are only 2 games back in the NFC East ROFL
Our OC and DC can't possibly get any worse

Negatives:
Tuck is garbage
JPP is playing like garbage (showed he is getting back to his usual self this past weekend but he's still not 100%)
Herzlich was not the LB everyone thought he was (seems I was the only Giants fan that didn't think he could start in this league)
Williams is weak right now and it's showing
Rolle can't tackle per usual (should have been cut after last year)
Coughlin may be losing his touch (some bad management this past weekend and how he's handled Wilson and Randle)
Nicks always gimps around
Entire offense is out of synch

Will be interesting to see how the NFC East plays out though. If we can win our remaining division games there is a good chance we will win the division. We have played our best games against division opponents so anything is possible right now.
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