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Mar 28 2014 07:00pm
Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ Mar 28 2014 06:48pm)
For the record - Maclin's percentage of passes caught:

2009 - 64 - 35th in the league - ~12 guys had higher with more chances
2010 - 66 - 24th - outranked all but 5 guys with more looks
2011 - 67 - 22nd - 5 or 6 guys with more looks had higher
2012 - 57.6 - 66th - ~15 guys ahead

So "barely catches half" is a grossly inaccurate statement from somebody who hates every WR/QB on the Eagles and is still salty that Foles was way better than Vick ever was.


those arent* very good numbers.

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Quote (Vick2Jackson @ Mar 28 2014 08:58pm)
you have made several claims that Maclin is a better Player than Djax

but you have absolutely no substance to back it up other than its your opinion...

it would only be worse if they drafted a WR IMO

Why would you dump a top 5 player on the team only to replace him with an unproven Late 1st round pick, rather than addressing the teams actual needs

it was infuriating to watch Allen and Chung last year after watching B-Dawk for so long.

but im not sold on HaHa either


Maclin is going to go bonkers in this offense, I can not WAIT to see all these people look retarded. I guarantee you he puts up huge numbers like D.Jax did (and Maclin will bring in more receptions as he's a far more dangerous option in traffic and the red zone), unless he's injured ofc.

I'll leave this here:

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Keep in mind, Maclin did have 46 more catches and five more touchdown receptions than Jackson in their time together with the Eagles.

And remember last summer? When Maclin was excited to be part of Kelly's offense because, he said, the previous one only wanted to feature Jackson's position -- and, therefore, Jackson?

"When Marty [Mornhinweg] was here, we tailored it around the flanker position," Maclin told CSN Philly in July. "That's just how it was ... The fact that I was able to personally accomplish what I accomplished, I think as far as the position I was playing, I think that's above what that guy normally does."

But, he said, there was no tailoring to one position in Kelly's offense. Indeed, part of what made their scheme dangerous is the multiple options to defend on a play. Run, by the quarterback or the running back, or pass. Bubble screen or hitting the tight end down the seam. Defenses had to worry about the multiple options available to Foles. Overplay one way and they could hit you the other. So the scheme works well when it has the right talent. And they should still have the right talent with not only Maclin but McCoy, Sproles, receiver Riley Cooper, and tight ends Brent Celek and Zach Ertz.

The Eagles will survive cutting Jackson. Maybe if Sproles remains a threat, as I think he will, and Maclin is healthy and close to the same, then they can continue to flourish. But there's no way to say losing a guy such as Jackson will result in anything but questions. But the Eagles will move on -- and they will still move down the field. That could be wishful thinking on the Eagles' part, but for now, they have the parts to make them believe it will be a reality.


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Mar 28 2014 07:11pm
Quote (Vick2Jackson @ Mar 28 2014 09:00pm)
those arent* very good numbers.


You're a fool.


Just to put it in perspective, Megatron's highest season was 65.1. I don't think you have any idea how this stat works or what a good number is.

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Maclin is going to go bonkers in this offense, I can not WAIT to see all these people look retarded. I guarantee you he puts up huge numbers like D.Jax did, unless he's injured ofc.

I'll leave this here:


dont get me wrong

i like Jmac, and i hope he has a solid season coming off injury...

but saying that he is a physical player with great size and hands is just comedy.


Maclin is not really scaring anyone though,

teams are so worried about getting beat deep by 10 , it really helps the running game; you arent stacking the box with Djax out wide unless you have a death wish

Maclin might be the better receiver overall, but desean is the best at what he does, and what he does is more valuable than what maclin does





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Mar 28 2014 07:27pm
Quote (Vick2Jackson @ Mar 28 2014 09:13pm)
dont get me wrong

i like Jmac, and i hope he has a solid season coming off injury...

but saying that he is a physical player with great size and hands is just comedy.


Maclin is not really scaring anyone though,

teams are so worried about getting beat deep by 10 , it really helps the running game; you arent stacking the box with Djax out wide unless you have a death wish

Maclin might be the better receiver overall, but desean is the best at what he does, and what he does is more valuable than what maclin does


Maclin > D.Jax

Both are talented WR's and together with Riley as our #3 would of made for a great trio, but make no mistake about it Maclin is our #1 and i've been saying that for years. He has BEEN our best WR, stats aside he's been the most physically gifted and talented player on this roster at that position since he was drafted.

Maclin is a burner, with size. He's not as quick as D.Jax (nobody in the NFL really is), but he has a ton of speed himself and actual size to make him a big threat anywhere on the field. Down field he can burn corners with speed, and over the middle we know he's not afraid to catch in traffic, and in the red zone he's extremely effective (as we saw his TD production there a couple years ago). He's been regarded as a #1 in the making since the day he was drafted, he has ALL the tools to be a go-to receiver if he can stay healthy this year he'll be just that in Chip Kelly's offense that will now feature him as the undisputed #1.

D.Jax had a huge year without Maclin in Chip Kelly's offense, now it's Maclin's turn to have a big year without D.Jax.

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Mar 28 2014 07:31pm
I think Maclin is more solid all around and consistent than Desean but Desean was a much better play-maker.
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Mar 28 2014 07:42pm
Quote (Nerlens @ Mar 28 2014 09:31pm)
I think Maclin is more solid all around and consistent than Desean but Desean was a much better play-maker.


More explosive, yeah. D.Jax has acceleration that can't be matched, probably the best in the NFL. Goes from sitting still to full speed faster than anyone i've ever seen.

But he also gets shut down easier against a good defense. We know he tends to disappear in big games, and you throw a big physical corner on him that can press and bump him and he vanishes.

Would of looked better with one on one side, and the other on the other side. Was looking forward to seeing BOTH of them in this offense. But at the end of the day, Kelly isn't that impressed by him to deal with the headache that he apparently gave him and believes he can replace his production without a problem. I guess we'll see.

Maclin can certainly post 85+ receptions, 1200+ yards, and 10 TD's it's just a matter of whether we can get the WR depth (drafting an impact WR now?) for this season after Cooper.

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More explosive, yeah. D.Jax has acceleration that can't be matched, probably the best in the NFL. Goes from sitting still to full speed faster than anyone i've ever seen.

But he also gets shut down easier against a good defense. We know he tends to disappear in big games, and you throw a big physical corner on him that can press and bump him and he vanishes.

Would of looked better with one on one side, and the other on the other side. Was looking forward to seeing BOTH of them in this offense. But at the end of the day, Kelly isn't that impressed by him to deal with the headache that he apparently gave him and believes he can replace his production without a problem. I guess we'll see.

Maclin can certainly post 85+ receptions, 1200+ yards, and 10 TD's it's just a matter of whether we can get the WR depth (drafting an impact WR now?) for this season after Cooper.


I'm just not huge on Maclin like you are. Let's just hope he doesn't get injured. Been looking at Mike Evans highlights though :drool:

Wishful thinking but pls sum
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Mar 28 2014 07:52pm
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More explosive, yeah. D.Jax has acceleration that can't be matched, probably the best in the NFL. Goes from sitting still to full speed faster than anyone i've ever seen.

But he also gets shut down easier against a good defense. We know he tends to disappear in big games, and you throw a big physical corner on him that can press and bump him and he vanishes.

Would of looked better with one on one side, and the other on the other side. Was looking forward to seeing BOTH of them in this offense. But at the end of the day, Kelly isn't that impressed by him to deal with the headache that he apparently gave him and believes he can replace his production without a problem. I guess we'll see.

Maclin can certainly post 85+ receptions, 1200+ yards, and 10 TD's it's just a matter of whether we can get the WR depth (drafting an impact WR now?) for this season after Cooper.


Seems pretty arrogant of him to think he can replace that production without batting an eye

we are talking about a guy who has the most 30+ yard touchdowns in the league since he was drafted, and played 942 snaps last year ( more than any other offensive player ),
Foles to Jackson was the second highest completion % in the nfl, second only to Rodgers-Nelson...

personally, i think kelly thinks to highly of his system,

your system is only as good as the players you have.
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Mar 28 2014 07:59pm
Quote (Vick2Jackson @ Mar 28 2014 09:52pm)
Seems pretty arrogant of him to think he can replace that production without batting an eye

we are talking about a guy who has the most 30+ yard touchdowns in the league since he was drafted, and played 942 snaps last year ( more than any other offensive player ),
Foles to Jackson was the second highest completion % in the nfl, second only to Rodgers-Nelson...

personally, i think kelly thinks to highly of his system,

your system is only as good as the players you have.


He turned Riley Cooper into a legitimate threat who had himself a damn good season with 800+ yards and 8 TD's

I mean if Riley Cooper had that kind of season, imagine what Maclin would have done if he was healthy LOL. Maclin runs circles around Cooper.

Eagles mediocre red zone offense (13th in the league) will be improved. Adding size at the WR position, that'll be another plus to this. So you gotta look at the flip side of things not just what we lose but what we gain. Things will be okay lol, just have patience.

IN CHIP WE TRUST

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