Quote (Izzo4Rizzo @ Apr 23 2022 08:43am)

Yeah I don’t see what these guys see, not like it’s all Shanahan why Deebo led? or at least was at the top of the league in YAC. Dude is a beastly athlete and has great field vision. Credit to Shanahan’s system for sure but Deebo will thrive in any offense

Quote (lucrative @ Apr 23 2022 07:48am)

hill is much more fool proof. im sure his production will dip because he left reid, but at the same time a pretty clear blueprint was made for how to use him. regardless of team hill is one of the fastest players in the league and one of the best deep threats, as well as one of the best open field runners. i see hill as a hall of fame caliber wr.

adams, look he's the best wr in the league. the trade was dumb for the raiders because he's old and expensive, but they needed help selling tickets and getting interest in the team, so i understand.

deebo's greatest asset is the energy he brings to a team. he made multiple plays last year that sparked the entire team. problem is, he wants to be paid based solely on his 1 good year of production at the highest price a wr has ever been paid, it's ludicrous. there is 1 reason and 1 reason only deebo wants to be paid right now, because even he doesnt think he'll replicate those stats another time. so you have a relatively unproven player who wants a change of role after 1 good season and wants to be paid top wr money before he proves he can be a top wr.

if deebo wants 25 mil and im the gm, no. id trade him for a 1st or make him play this year out. you already need to find another player to fill the role he refuses to play again, so deebo instantly becomes that much less valuable to me.

Quote (chrisdabomb @ Apr 23 2022 12:47am)

Hate to lose him but if he doesn’t want to be a gadget player then I say we need to trade him while we can get multiple first round picks guys that we can build with trey around

Quote (oyoll @ Apr 27 2022 09:04am)

100% agree -- Just read a tweet (for whatever that is worth) that the Jets are willing to trade some draft picks and Elijah Moore.

If the niners can get back into the first round this year + some future picks & grab a WR with similar traits as Deebo, that's a huge payoff imo for a guy that just blew up in, so far, in one season.

Kyle is a great mind and can definitely work with any receiver and use them in the same manor he did Deebo, and Deebo is looking like a solid NFL talent.

https://i.imgur.com/HYk61bc.png

Deebo put up a solid stat line this year can't argue with that. But no one has a crystal ball to say this performance is going to become a consistent thing for him, and yes Kyles system absolutely played a role in this outcome.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/receiving.htm#receiving::rec_yds

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How he matched up w/ other wr in the league this year.

Quote (lucrative @ Apr 23 2022 10:48am)

hill is much more fool proof. im sure his production will dip because he left reid, but at the same time a pretty clear blueprint was made for how to use him. regardless of team hill is one of the fastest players in the league and one of the best deep threats, as well as one of the best open field runners. i see hill as a hall of fame caliber wr.

adams, look he's the best wr in the league. the trade was dumb for the raiders because he's old and expensive, but they needed help selling tickets and getting interest in the team, so i understand.

deebo's greatest asset is the energy he brings to a team. he made multiple plays last year that sparked the entire team. problem is, he wants to be paid based solely on his 1 good year of production at the highest price a wr has ever been paid, it's ludicrous. there is 1 reason and 1 reason only deebo wants to be paid right now, because even he doesnt think he'll replicate those stats another time. so you have a relatively unproven player who wants a change of role after 1 good season and wants to be paid top wr money before he proves he can be a top wr.

if deebo wants 25 mil and im the gm, no. id trade him for a 1st or make him play this year out. you already need to find another player to fill the role he refuses to play again, so deebo instantly becomes that much less valuable to me.

Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Apr 25 2022 03:16am)

I agree with this nuance too

Deebo is nowhere close to as proven as Tyreek or Adam's and doesn't deserve the same kind of treatment

I agree he's not in the same class.. but he is a top caliber WR

Just not worth 20+ mil

Quote (chrisdabomb @ Apr 28 2022 02:48pm)

agreed man Kyle can make players better than they really are, even though deebo YAC is insane