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Nov 1 2025 10:27pm
Is this supposed to be impressive? That wouldn't even get you to 7stars at Caesars :rofl: (18 years straight 7 star btw)


Zero chance you're profitable. We haven't seen you make one correct prediction to date rofl.
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Nov 1 2025 10:33pm
Bro what the FUCK are you talking about...

The amount of money bet significantly impacts MVP odds, as sportsbooks adjust the lines to balance their risk and attract action on all possible outcomes. This is BETTING 101

Just walk away 😂😂😂😂


MVP odds are not a zero sum wager attempting to balance a book where money coming in on one side affect the odds on the other. You're confused on this.

I don't know how else to explain this to you, but in scenarios like this in "non zero sum wagers" like MVP betting, like Automobile racing "to win", the book uses the mathematical formula odds only, and doesn't adjust for incoming wagers. Its for the same reason you could get Verstappen the last two years better than -250 most races, despite 95+% of that money beiing on him to win.

Seriously, you're not right and never winning this argument.
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Nov 1 2025 10:38pm
Zero chance you're profitable. We haven't seen you make one correct prediction to date rofl.


Tell the IRS I'm not profitable, I've paid into them on gambling since 2017. I'm literally barred from 60% of the casinos in the country because I'm what they call an "Advantage Player".

There's a reason I turned 30k JSP into 206k JSP in one year of wagering here, while simultaneously extracting $1,700 in steam/battle.net gifts (~238k FG extracted). Even though I punted it, I still net 232k + the remaining 1290 I have now.

Christ, I'm barred from the majority of casinos in America because I'm what they refer to as an "Advantage Player" and my photo is in virtually every card counting database. If I felt like doxxing myself further, I'd give you my name to look up in OSN Redhand just to see all my surveillance photos. :rofl:
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Nov 1 2025 10:40pm
MVP odds are not a zero sum wager attempting to balance a book where money coming in on one side affect the odds on the other. You're confused on this.

I don't know how else to explain this to you, but in scenarios like this in "non zero sum wagers" like MVP betting, like Automobile racing "to win", the book uses the mathematical formula odds only, and doesn't adjust for incoming wagers. Its for the same reason you could get Verstappen the last two years better than -250 most races, despite 95+% of that money beiing on him to win.

Seriously, you're not right and never winning this argument.


I knew you were really bad at this sports thing, but believing that BETTING odds indicate who is actually most valuable kinda cements it.

MVP odds fluctuate based on real-time factors including player performance, team success, injuries, public betting action, and bookmaker risk management. I feel like I'm talking to a 12 year old learning the basics of how sports betting works.

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Tell the IRS I'm not profitable, I've paid into them on gambling since 2017. I'm literally barred from 60% of the casinos in the country because I'm what they call an "Advantage Player".

There's a reason I turned 30k JSP into 206k JSP in one year of wagering here, while simultaneously extracting $1,700 in steam/battle.net gifts (~238k FG extracted). Even though I punted it, I still net 232k + the remaining 1290 I have now.

Christ, I'm barred from the majority of casinos in America because I'm what they refer to as an "Advantage Player" and my photo is in virtually every card counting database. If I felt like doxxing myself further, I'd give you my name to look up in OSN Redhand just to see all my surveillance photos. :rofl:


Riiiiight

2/10

Credit for effort
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Nov 1 2025 10:45pm
I knew you were really bad at this sports thing, but believing that BETTING odds indicate who is actually most valuable kinda cements it.

MVP odds fluctuate based on real-time factors including player performance, team success, injuries, public betting action, and bookmaker risk management. I feel like I'm talking to a 12 year old learning the basics of how sports betting works.


Again, betting odds for the Bills Chiefs game are handled different than, say, the MVP odds, one is a zero sum model attempting to balance books to leverage the vig and make money regardless of the outcome, and the other simply is not, the other attempts to make its money on the "long shots" betting against the favorites by offering enticing offers like Drake Maye at +650 knowing full well he wont' win it, or Josh Allen at +260 or wherever he is now, knowing its unlikely he'd go back to back.


MVP odds do not fluctuate in real time at major casinos, they literally only fluctuate when new game data is entered into the algorithm.
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Nov 1 2025 10:46pm
Riiiiight

2/10

Credit for effort


It literally does not matter that you don't believe me, my knowledge and experience in Vegas, Odds making, betting in general, and overall casino knowledge proves my claims for me. You're just a hater who thought he was impressing someone with 126k cycled action. The equivalent of losing ~6300 a year. Which is why you didn't show the rest of that page.
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Nov 1 2025 10:48pm
It literally does not matter that you don't believe me, my knowledge and experience in Vegas, Odds making, betting in general, and overall casino knowledge proves my claims for me. You're just a hater who thought he was impressing someone with 126k cycled action. The equivalent of losing ~6300 a year. Which is why you didn't show the rest of that page.


YOU are the one who flexed with the "six figures" betting comment :rofl:

This just keeps getting better and better. Keep going though, popcorn is almost ready. 😆

Guy hasnt been right about any sports predictions yet wants us to believe this nonsense

This post was edited by Sixers on Nov 1 2025 10:50pm
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YOU are the one who flexed with the "six figures" betting comment :rofl:

This just keeps getting better and better. Keep going though, popcorn is almost ready. 😆


So you thought it was a flex to show the most babydick 6 figure amount imaginable? And then hide the rest of the data on the screen to pretend you're a winner? :rofl:

Just go home and beat it to your Jalen (Hurts or Carter) Idol.
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Nov 1 2025 10:53pm
So you thought it was a flex to show the most babydick 6 figure amount imaginable? And then hide the rest of the data on the screen to pretend you're a winner? :rofl:

Just go home and beat it to your Jalen (Hurts or Carter) Idol.


1/10 taking points for lack of creativity

We've seen your football takes here and your picks. Say something more believable 😂
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