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Oct 18 2016 12:13am
Quote (Terps @ Oct 17 2016 11:06pm)
I was talking as a rookie <_<

Might be his final season in the NFL after his biceps tear -__-

Ngakoue is the 2nd MD player in 2 years we've passed on who turned out to be really good, the other being Diggs. Instead we drafted Kamalei Correa and a CB who is literally dead right now.


I guarantee you there's plenty of teams who regret passing on Ngakoue.

He looked like your typical DPR, but it's very clear that's not the case.

He still needs to get better vs the run, but he's not a liability there at all.
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Oct 18 2016 12:48am
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I guarantee you there's plenty of teams who regret passing on Ngakoue.

He looked like your typical DPR, but it's very clear that's not the case.

He still needs to get better vs the run, but he's not a liability there at all.

I thought he deserved to be a 2nd round pick, but getting him in the 3rd was obviously good value.

I thought he was comparable to Leonard Floyd as a prospect (both DPRs), but he went in round 1, too high imo. Floyd had better speed but less strength, and was more in the role of a traditional 3-4 rush LB since he could drop into coverage (played ILB some at UGA), but Ngakoue seemed more raw if he was to be a rush-LB and too small to play DE (not sure how he's used over there). Plus Floyd had the advantage of playing in the spotlight at Georgia, while Ngakoue wasted his time playing for a 3-win Terps team.

Like Diggs, I will both love and hate his success, since he's a Terp, but our FO passed on him when he was pretty obviously talented and fit a huge need. How they manage to overlook players in their own backyard irritates me... at least Judon looks legit.
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Oct 18 2016 01:34am
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I thought he deserved to be a 2nd round pick, but getting him in the 3rd was obviously good value.

I thought he was comparable to Leonard Floyd as a prospect (both DPRs), but he went in round 1, too high imo. Floyd had better speed but less strength, and was more in the role of a traditional 3-4 rush LB since he could drop into coverage (played ILB some at UGA), but Ngakoue seemed more raw if he was to be a rush-LB and too small to play DE (not sure how he's used over there). Plus Floyd had the advantage of playing in the spotlight at Georgia, while Ngakoue wasted his time playing for a 3-win Terps team.

Like Diggs, I will both love and hate his success, since he's a Terp, but our FO passed on him when he was pretty obviously talented and fit a huge need. How they manage to overlook players in their own backyard irritates me... at least Judon looks legit.


Our GM Dave Caldwell said they originally looked to draft Ngakoue with our 2nd round pick, but when Myles Jack was still on the board they couldn't pass him up.

When Yannick was still there in the 3rd, it was an obvious no brainer.

They flew out our DC Todd Wash a week before the draft to hold a private workout with Ngakoue. He ran him through 4-3 DE drills, instead of 3-4 OLB drills, which most teams were looking at him as a 3-4 OLB.

Yannick is only used as our LEO DE. Our LEO DE only lines up on the weak side and typically only sees 1 vs 1 match ups.

The LEO DE uses the wide 9 principles and is set up to get our better athlete in a consistent 1 on 1 match up vs the OT. Ngakoue having that natural bend and being a natural pass rusher, our LEO DE position fits him perfectly.

The thing is, nobody expected him to have this kind of an impact, this early. There's a steep learning curve for DE/Pass Rushers in general and they usually struggle, especially in their rookie seasons. Yannick has definitely not been the norm though. Dude is a fucking baller.

With the coming out party of Yannickgod Ngakoue, they've played Fowler at the strong side DE quite a bit. More of your typical traditional 4-3 DE look (slightly undersized though), but Fowler is seeing the chips/double teams, while Ngakoue gets to see all of the 1v1. It's a very good thing to see, because the original plan was to have Yannick just be a DPR/3rd down/obvious pass rushing situation type of player his first year. That's clearly not the case now though.
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Oct 23 2016 01:19pm
Why can't ar15 do anything? Why must he suck so bad? Thought was a easy ffl draft pick
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Oct 23 2016 01:25pm
Quote (SoulOne @ Oct 23 2016 02:19pm)
Why can't ar15 do anything? Why must he suck so bad? Thought was a easy ffl draft pick


because bortles is awful
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Oct 23 2016 02:32pm
Infuriating game glad Allen Robinson can't catch this year
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Oct 23 2016 02:52pm
killed ourselves in the 1st half like usual.

but my fuckin god, that entire officiating crew is god awful, for both teams.
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Oct 23 2016 03:05pm
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killed ourselves in the 1st half like usual.

but my fuckin god, that entire officiating crew is god awful, for both teams.



That grounding penalty was a joke he's got a fucking linebacker running full speed into him but the play isn't dead
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Oct 23 2016 03:12pm
Quote (Bluth @ Oct 23 2016 02:05pm)
That grounding penalty was a joke he's got a fucking linebacker running full speed into him but the play isn't dead


That penalty, the one on Lee and the unnecessary roughness penalty on Jackson were all bogus as fuck. The extra penalty on Jackson for telling the ref off was w.e, but he had every right to be pissed off because that unnecessary roughness call was bogus as fuck. Just like the taunting call or w.e on Lee.

Raiders couldn't do anything in the 2nd half and both those bogus calls gave them points in the 2nd half.

Either way though, game was awful to watch with that officiating crew.
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Oct 23 2016 03:18pm
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That penalty, the one on Lee and the unnecessary roughness penalty on Jackson were all bogus as fuck. The extra penalty on Jackson for telling the ref off was w.e, but he had every right to be pissed off because that unnecessary roughness call was bogus as fuck. Just like the taunting call or w.e on Lee.

Raiders couldn't do anything in the 2nd half and both those bogus calls gave them points in the 2nd half.

Either way though, game was awful to watch with that officiating crew.



But still #firebradley the play calling has been terrible
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