The primary issue I have with the "Ben's finished" argument is his accuracy has been incredibly high. His receivers were dropping passes that were literally dropped directly into their hands. Do I think they're shit and should be fired because they had a few bad games? Not really. It happens. If they were to end out the year with it? Okay, let's talk. Ben has one low accuracy game, and all the sudden it's "Ben's gotta go!" Really? I mean, he did shitty. Nobody's going to argue that. For one game. Name one quarterback currently in the NFL who's gone a full season without a shitty, low accuracy game. Hell, even Tom Brady, the king shit of all king shit QBs has a low accuracy game to point to every year of his career. 3 games straight, the receiving squad failed Ben and he did an excellent job. One game he did shit, and his receivers were finally back on point. Okay, I'll drop the L on Ben. What about the last two?

As for letting Rudolph end out the season, that's laughable. Easy, solid way to simply give up the rest of the season/post season effort.

I started saying right around the time big Troy retired that they needed to draft a new franchise QB. They've failed to do so. Until they do, Ben's unquestionably the best they've got.

So what ur saying is basically

Prime Ben was not the answer after troy left and they shoulda drafted a better franchise qb
BUT
Old out of his prime Ben is the solution

No, I'm saying the franchise didn't bother to draft a quality secondary franchise QB to bring in after Ben, so now they're at a point where their secondary in the QB position is dreadful enough that there's no real answer if Ben has a bad day. Where if you look at the strong "dynasty style" teams of the last few decades, they did the opposite. San Francisco simultaneously had Joe Montana and Steve Young. Green Bay had Favre and Rodgers. New England had Bledsoe and Brady. In many cases, the younger QB tends to outstripe the veteran within a couple years, and be put at starter position. In other cases, not so much. Pittsburgh, at this point, hasn't bothered to give themselves any real options. It's shortsighted, and in general, I blame Tomlin, more than anyone else. Cowher always had a viable backup plan, even when he had far less talent. Tomlin doesn't seem to plan that far ahead.

Tomlin put all his eggs in the rapistburger basket in hopes that he could get carried to a couple more sb rings
He might have destroyed ur franchise for the foreseeable future out of avarice for his own personal accolades

Why on earth would you assert malice or greed on Tomlin's part? Look at his record. Prior to becoming head coach, he was a defensive coordinator, and prior to that, he was a db coach. If you look at the priorities given to Pittsburgh's drafting and free agent recruitment, it has leaned heavily defensive during Tomlin's entire tenure. I don't think it's necessarily that Tomlin put all his eggs in one QB basket. I think it's more that his focus is so heavily defense oriented that he allows the offense to fracture. His first coaching position was as a WR coach. Notice how Pittsburgh always has a pretty heavy talent showing on the receiver roster, but not so great on the run game? In some ways, I think he just lacks basic understanding of what a multi-threat offense is supposed to look like.

Def wins championship tho
How bad can their run game b, starting Steelers rbs r always guaranteed ff starters

88 yards per game rushing average? It turns out that Pittsburgh's run game is the second worst in the NFL, beaten in terribleness only by the Texans.

And defense "winning championships" depends pretty heavily on rungame, historically. Effectively, you control 2/3rds of time of possession, run run run, and any time you fail to get a score, it works out because the defense gets it back to you fast. Unfortunately, Pittsburgh's gone with pass pass pass. When Ben and the receivers are all in sync, it works. They use a lot of short passes to effectively fake a run game and run game clock management. When they play like they have been for the last few weeks, it completely breaks down.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Dec 22 2020 05:30am

That's wild I had no idea

Haha I'm not to worried about Ben. My concern is the offensive collectively. For a month now they just can't get something going and yesterdays game should have been the day to turn things around. Honestly they should have dropped 30+ on the Bengals and we had like 40 total offensive yards at half time. I agree everyone has their bad day and I wouldn't jump to the conclusion of benching Ben or firing the coaching staff as some people on social media and such have alluded to. That's a bid ridiculous lol!

Our fans are toxic af (not you specifically) but at the end of the day you have to zoom out and look at the big picture. Playoffs are still clinched & are season isn't over.

Hey hey! Our offense finally figured out how to work as a team. Dismal first half, but second half just well enough.

Any way, while I was dead wrong about the Cincy game, Colts game worked fine. Browns taking division? Pfft. Couldn't hold it vs the Jets.

"Called it."

Now they need to take the second half, improve on it, and bring that game against the Browns.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84378208&f=204&p=565754618 Prediction.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Dec 27 2020 03:22pm