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Dec 27 2015 03:44pm
Quote (thebigman1212 @ Dec 27 2015 05:41pm)
Nope it's the truth, they showed him talking to the captains (Slater and nikovich) minutes before going out.

Also he argued for the direction in the video not who posses the ball first


This the whole video of slater and the ref was about the direction of the kick
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Dec 27 2015 03:47pm
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This the whole video of slater and the ref was about the direction of the kick


so what you're saying is

Bill told Slater that if he won the coin toss, he should use that win to decide what goal to defend

but

the ref misheard him and thought he was selecting possession, to kick off?

is that what you're saying?
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Dec 27 2015 03:51pm
Quote (kayeto @ Dec 27 2015 05:47pm)
so what you're saying is

Bill told Slater that if he won the coin toss, he should use that win to decide what goal to defend

but

the ref misheard him and thought he was selecting possession, to kick off?

is that what you're saying?



Yes , if you decide to kick you get to pick which direction you want to kick in I believe

This isn't the first time bill decided to kick in overtime
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Dec 27 2015 03:55pm
Quote (kid0lo @ Dec 27 2015 04:51pm)
Yes , if you decide to kick you get to pick which direction you want to kick in I believe

This isn't the first time bill decided to kick in overtime


That's what I said at first, and i got corrected in this post: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73702684&f=204&p=497986181

I'm still not sure but i tried to look it up and it appears that AiNedeSpelCzech is actually right. if you decide to kick, that counts as your "winning privilege" and the other team gets to pick which goal to defend"

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http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/majority-of-nfl-coin-toss-winners-now-defer-choice-of-whether-to-receive-until-second-half-110914)
Rule 4, Section 2, Article 2: Not more than three minutes before the kickoff of the first half, the Referee, in the presence of both team’s captains (limit of six per team, all of whom must be uniformed members of the Active List) shall toss a coin at the center of the field. Prior to the Referee’s toss, the call of “heads” or “tails” must be made by the captain of the visiting team, or by the captain designated by the Referee if there is no home team. Unless the winner of the toss defers his choice to the second half, he must choose one of two privileges, and the loser is given the other. The two privileges are:

(a) The opportunity to receive the kickoff, or to kick off; or

(b) The choice of goal his team will defend


That rule doesn't specify the overtime coin toss, but if its the same, then slater used his winning decision to kick
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Dec 27 2015 03:57pm
Quote (kayeto @ Dec 27 2015 05:55pm)
That's what I said at first, and i got corrected in this post: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73702684&f=204&p=497986181

I'm still not sure but i tried to look it up and it appears that AiNedeSpelCzech is actually right. if you decide to kick, that counts as your "winning privilege" and the other team gets to pick which goal to defend"



That rule doesn't specify the overtime coin toss, but if its the same, then slater used his winning decision to kick



Yeah they just explained it , if you decide to kick you can't pick the direction
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Dec 27 2015 04:00pm
Quote (kid0lo @ Dec 27 2015 04:57pm)
Yeah they just explained it , if you decide to kick you can't pick the direction


i tried googling the rule though, and the one i found say that you can pick the direction..
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he must choose one of two privileges, and the loser is given the other. The two privileges are:
(a) The opportunity to receive the kickoff, or to kick off; or
(b) The choice of goal his team will defend

I'm aware that the rule i quoted doesn't specify that the overtime coin toss rule is the same, but can anyone find a rule that does? without that, the best info i have to go with is that it is the same

This post was edited by kayeto on Dec 27 2015 04:01pm
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Dec 27 2015 04:02pm
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i tried googling the rule though, and the one i found say that you can pick the direction..

I'm aware that the rule i quoted doesn't specify that the overtime rule is the same, but can anyone find a rule that does? without that, the best info i have to go with is that it is the same



Well, I just seen the post game interview with slater and he said since he decided to kick he couldn't pick the direction
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Dec 27 2015 04:05pm
...well now , the plot thickens .
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Dec 27 2015 04:07pm
Quote (kid0lo @ Dec 27 2015 05:02pm)
Well, I just seen the post game interview with slater and he said since he decided to kick he couldn't pick the direction


he said that's what the ref told him. I still maintain that there was some confusion.

The way I read the rule, Slater could make one of these 4 choices:

1- receive the kickoff
2- kick the kickoff
3- defend the left goal
4- defend the right goal

The ref thought that Slater intended to select option 2. Doing that was his single privilege and he doesn't get anything from 3 or 4.

Slater intended to select option 3 or 4.

Do you interpret the rule I quoted to be different?

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Dec 27 2015 04:11pm
Quote (kayeto @ Dec 27 2015 06:07pm)
he said that's what the ref told him. I still maintain that there was some confusion.

The way I read the rule, Slater could make one of these 4 choices:

1- receive the kickoff
2- kick the kickoff
3- defend the left goal
4- defend the right goal

The ref thought that Slater intended to select option 2. Doing that was his single privilege and he doesn't get anything from 3 or 4.

Slater intended to select option 3 or 4.

Do you interpret the rule I quoted to be different?



I get what you're saying now , since he elected to " kick" and not defend he couldn't pick the direction?
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