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Jan 22 2024 10:53am
Think of all the people who could have a motive to interfere with an organic result. You really believe that none of them would stoop to corruption for personal gain?
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theres a pic going around of some tv station listing the musical performances for the ravens/9ers superbowl feb 11... im like the person in charge of that graphic prob just used the two #1 seeds in a rush, but people love their conspiracies. i said if they died in a suspicious car accident later this week i might start believing... instagram gave me a warning


I'm not sure how having the Baltimore Ravens in the Superbowl would translate to earnings/viewership in excess of a more popular team, like the chiefs, whose viewership is at the top of the board almost every week. San Fran checks that box, though, as they're #2.
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I'm not sure how having the Baltimore Ravens in the Superbowl would translate to earnings/viewership in excess of a more popular team, like the chiefs, whose viewership is at the top of the board almost every week. San Fran checks that box, though, as they're #2.


I think across all sports it seems clear that there is minimal interference to slant viewership. For example top draft prospects seem to regularly drop in the laps of less than desirable markets. Also less than desirable markets consistently advance past teams that would have better demographics

However the factor that should be scrutinized the most is the gambling side. Min/maxing viewership numbers doesn’t have that great of a bottom line when compared to skewing how much money bookies rake in on various lines

For example the Bucs/Eagles, Packers/49ers, and Bills/Chiefs games all lined up perfectly for the bookies somehow. There are 4 sides of the equation in every game. The moneyline for each side and the spread for each side typically have the most amount of money involved. For each of those key games, the outcomes all favored making the maximum amount of money from institutional POV

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but i did read that with all the money now coming in on legal gambling there will be more of an interest in things that could change the outcome of games. i DO believe the bad officiating and the lack of true consequences for badly officiating comes from the fact that some crews WILL be attempting to change the outcome. sooo so much money involved now more than ever. the conspiracy theories of entire nfl rigging would require so many people to keep it a secret it would be impossible, but the top 3-4 maybe 1-2 of an officiating crew... nfl wants chiefs superbowl for ratings or vegas wants #1 seed to go down im very much convinced the outcome could be affected for a payoff to someone. imagine all the sharks that make spreads and odds and they see a game that could pocket X side a substantial amount. 100k bribe to secure millions from legal gambling? oh yea man
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Jan 22 2024 11:17am
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I think across all sports it seems clear that there is minimal interference to slant viewership. For example top draft prospects seem to regularly drop in the laps of less than desirable markets. Also less than desirable markets consistently advance past teams that would have better demographics

However the factor that should be scrutinized the most is the gambling side. Min/maxing viewership numbers doesn’t have that great of a bottom line when compared to skewing how much money bookies rake in on various lines

For example the Bucs/Eagles, Packers/49ers, and Bills/Chiefs games all lined up perfectly for the bookies somehow. There are 4 sides of the equation in every game. The moneyline for each side and the spread for each side typically have the most amount of money involved. For each of those key games, the outcomes all favored making the maximum amount of money from institutional POV


The additional revenue via sports betting, particularly the NFL, is an additional 2.3 billion, which is a fraction of what they receive from viewership; specifically broadcasting the broadcasting deals/rights. The broadcasting deals are done before the season and they're based on previous years viewership and estimated futures. In comparison to that 2.3 billion total of unguaranteed money by way of sports bettering, each individual team collects 3.9 billion in guaranteed television money. Taking that all into consideration, it'd be far more beneficial to have the chiefs vs. 49ers during the year of the swifties. The swing in viewershp would be dramatic compared to years prior, which would undoubtedly translate to considerably better guaranteed deals.

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The additional revenue via sports betting, particularly the NFL, is an additional 2.3 billion, which is a fraction of what they receive from viewership; specifically broadcasting the broadcasting deals/rights. The broadcasting deals are done before the season and they're based on previous years viewership and estimated futures. In comparison to that 2.3 billion total of unguaranteed money by way of sports bettering, each individual team collects 3.9 billion in guaranteed television money. Taking that all into consideration, it'd be far more beneficial to have the chiefs vs. 49ers during the year of the swifties. The swing in viewershp would be dramatic compared to years prior, which would undoubtedly translate to considerably better guaranteed deals.


They also sell the rights to games on the fly, I believe they gave Amazon a game on the fly this year and the cost of the rights were public knowledge afaik (from just browsing articles).
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They also sell the rights to games on the fly, I believe they gave Amazon a game on the fly this year and the cost of the rights were public knowledge afaik (from just browsing articles).


That shit has been annoying the fuck out of me lately, especially that peacock game, fuck that. But it goes to show that you don't need to have some sort of secret script to maximize profitability when they're selling game rights mid season and grabbing more money right in our damn faces, and making it more difficult to watch the game while doing it.
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Quote (crunkinator @ Jan 22 2024 11:17am)
The additional revenue via sports betting, particularly the NFL, is an additional 2.3 billion, which is a fraction of what they receive from viewership; specifically broadcasting the broadcasting deals/rights. The broadcasting deals are done before the season and they're based on previous years viewership and estimated futures. In comparison to that 2.3 billion total of unguaranteed money by way of sports bettering, each individual team collects 3.9 billion in guaranteed television money. Taking that all into consideration, it'd be far more beneficial to have the chiefs vs. 49ers during the year of the swifties. The swing in viewershp would be dramatic compared to years prior, which would undoubtedly translate to considerably better guaranteed deals.


so what you sayin is bet the farm on the Chiefs



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so what you sayin is bet the farm on the Chiefs

^Proint

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Yes
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so what you sayin is bet the farm on the Chiefs

^Proint

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For now I'd bet on viewership if there is indeed a script but realistically sports betting, once adopted by all the States, will have insane ceiling at full potential. If anyone ever gets bored, read into the lobbyist efforts for sports betting, those guys are living like the stock brokers in the 80s, it's frankly insane. The strong push would indicate an intent to fix games, because it's a fuck ton of money those guys are blowing through.
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