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Quote (Hako @ Apr 29 2013 04:04am)
Those are just 3 of them (there's 6 more). If you go to this great, great site below, it will give you a whole shit load of prospects/players. Some may not have any videos, other may have a lot. But whenever I'm curious about somebody this is the first site I go to. Here's Moore's link...

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/damontre-moore


I'll have to bookmark this site, thanks buddy.
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I'll have to bookmark this site, thanks buddy.


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Add 10 lbs to his weight and 7 reps to his bench. Added that all in a couple weeks. Whenever the combine to his pro day was.
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Apr 29 2013 01:47pm
2013 Nfl Draft: Mike Mayock's Top 100 Prospects


http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000161676/article/2013-nfl-draft-mike-mayocks-top-100-prospects




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4 in the top 100, 3 of those in the top 50.

24. Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
58. Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
33. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
50. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse

Last 3 picks didn't make the list.
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Apr 29 2013 11:29pm
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2013/4/21/4251006/johnathan-hankins-why-star-is-bad-value-at-4




I will do a back flip while licking a toilet bowl if Hankins is anywhere close to as dominant as Wilfork.

The article itself is why Hankins would be a better pick for Philly in the later rounds than Star at #4 which is interesting but that's another conversation.
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Strengths:

  • Hankins is a big guy and he plays even bigger. He has the strength to overwhelm linemen and anchors very well against double teams.
  • Excellent at shedding blocks. When two-gapping he can drive his man into the backfield before tossing him aside and making the tackle when a running back chooses a gap.
  • Surprisingly athletic for a man this size. Can make plays laterally along the line of scrimmage and closes quickly on the QB/RB once he slips his blocker. - He ran a 7.59 3-cone and a 4.61 shuttle (compared to Star's 7.76 and 4.65 whilst also being 10 lbs lighter)
  • Gets good push up the middle to collapse the pocket and make quarterbacks feel uncomfortable.
  • Wasn't asked to play 1-gap very often in college, but on those occasions he showed he can get good penetration into the backfield.
  • Fantastic motor. Will chase a ballcarrier downfield until a tackle is made even when it's obvious he won't be the first man to get there.
  • Keeps his eyes in the backfield at all times. Is quick to disengage and follow the ballcarrier on runs to the opposite side. Gets his hands up into passing lanes on occasion.
  • Played on a hybrid defense that used multiple schemes and techniques. Has experience of just about every defensive line position (even lined up in a Wide-9 on a few occasions).



Weaknesses:


  • Despite all of his dominant ability, Hankins wears down towards the end of games. As he tires, he'll lose power, he'll slow down, his pad level will rise and he'll be blocked much more easily.
  • Due to limited experience playing 1-gap schemes, will probably need to work on some more pass rush moves at the next level.
Now, those weaknesses are gonna sound pretty bad until you think about why Hankins wore down towards the end of games. Firstly, he played a lot of snaps. He averaged 61 snaps per game (to put that in context Floyd only played 40 snaps per game) which is a long time to run around carrying 320 lbs. Secondly, he's not very well conditioned. He has had issues with his weight throughout his career and carries too much weight in his gut and butt.

Many have mistaken his fatigue for a lack of effort toward the end of games, but that's simply untrue. Hankins plays hard for every snap that he's on the field and his teammates speak very highly of his work ethic. He's also never missed a game; he used a brace to help him play through a sprained knee.

What this tells me is that his problems can be overcome at the next level. Firstly he won't be asked to play anywhere near as many snaps in the NFL. Secondly, with an NFL weight room and conditioning program (maybe one that gives its players personalized smoothies after practice) he should be able to get his fitness up to a level where he can play more consistently at a high level.

If you ask Big John who he aspires to be like, he'll tell you Vince Wilfork. That might be easy to laugh off when considering his dominance in New England, until you remember what was said about Vince before the 2004 draft:


Powerful, game-controlling defensive player that can be an unstoppable force. Top athlete that displays explosion off the snap, plays with leverage and bull rushes opponents up the field. Quickly closes to the action, immediately alters his angle of attack and chases the action from behind. Squares and wraps tackling bringing ball carriers down on initial contact.

Looked overweight and out of shape as a junior and as though he was playing not to get hurt. Lackadaisical off the ball and inconsistent at times.

Displaying flashes of dominance, Wilfork is an explosive defender in the middle of the line. Had a lot of inconsistency issues last season which is dropping him down draft boards but a good prospect at a priority position.



Sound familiar?

This post was edited by xnozx. on Apr 29 2013 11:31pm
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3000th post in giants thread!!!
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