Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Oct 21 2020 09:23am)
i dont even need to read past the first paragraph to call bullshit. bookies are math people, atleast in real life they understand basic math and are quick with it to sight. he wouldn't need to "calculate them as they come in" to know as soon as he saw that post to know that it was well over, it was over by fucking more than double. i could buy that maybe he didn't know that the original bet wasnt 800 over, that is believable. but for him to not know right off the bat that this would be insanely over is just too hard to believe, unless again, nede's signature is accurate, and he really is just stupid mathematically, inwhich case i can forgive it lol.
someone who boasts having done this for the last 3 yrs should be able to look at certain betlines and parlays and just know that they'll be over just by what the bet is, how many single bets are in the parlay etc.
i do not blame YOU for any of this, i think you are just fine, i've never seen you not be fair and honestly if i ever did start betting id be wanting to use you as med for every bet, and even if you voted for terps to pay this out and honor ians request because it was common sense, the rest of the trusteds probably wouldn't have gone with you on the decision because it isn't in the rules of the trusted that the trusted person (terps in this case) has to be a good person, just one you can trust to follow his own fucked up rules to the hilt. which if you are smart you can play around and still be safe for the most part. it's just really fucking hard for me to not look at this entire situation and then the jets superbowl auction thing and not see terps as highly suspect at bare minimum or a piece of shit at maximum.
i have a unique perspective on this because im not with nede 100% on saying you and terps r both pieces of shit and ian got screwed 100%. i'm with ian in the sense that what terps did was suspect but it does not warrant an SA because nothing would come of it but drama, and with you in the sense that as the trusted community there is nothing you can do because "technically" terps didn't do anything against his rules. but also against terps because what he did even tho it wasnt "against his own rules" it was still highly fucking suspect at the very least.
in short tldr version: people like you make me feel like if i ever want to start betting in this sub i'll be safe, but people like terps make me feel like i better read the fine print because he certainly will never give me the benefit of the doubt and alert me to shit that could fuck me over in a very unfair way even if its completely obvious to him, because he wants to profit.
I can see that from your perspective for sure. I also think the whole auction was bullshit and suspect at a minimum, we also ruled against his rule in that thread behind the scenes, as he doesn't have the sole power to say "you are getting welcher tagged for this" as part of his rules. Nede is just my dickrider, so his opinion is void for that reason alone. I think Terps was warranted in not letting him drop the game due to the fact that a parlay is one bet with multiple parts, not multiple bets, so that's how my vote goes, because you can't retract a bet once it starts. Is it shitty for terps to not let him retract or is it shittier to ask to remove a game from a four game bet thats already started to make it a winner? Those are opinions and can be seen from both ways depending on your perspective. I try to be as fair as I can with my vote on things and keep personal prefrence out of it and I hope the rest of the people who have a vote do as well. I am sure some don't, most do though I feel out of the ones who actively participate.