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Nov 10 2014 01:36am
Quote (GetEmSenior89 @ Nov 10 2014 02:27am)
IDK man, RB's are pretty easy to come by (relatively, anyway). I think CB is a much bigger need. We really have NOBODY outside Jimmy Smith.

I wouldn't be too upset with Gurley, though. B)


Gordon is lightning fast, has decent size. Could be like Eric Dickerson
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Nov 10 2014 02:51am
I'm not a big fan of Wisconsin RBs. Most of them are products of their OL.

Gurley I do really like, but my concern with him is will he be able to take the beating at the NFL level. He has had injury issues in his past, but if healthy he is no joke. He is easily one of the top college players in the country.

Personally, I'd rather see you guys let Taliaferro see what he can do and draft another RB later (just my outside prospective). Because its been proven over and over you can find good RBs later in the draft.

The draft is always a tricky beast though and you can only trust your board. Ozzie has been pretty good about just letting the talent fall and not trying to rush a trade to grab somebody.
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Nov 10 2014 02:54am
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I'm not a big fan of Wisconsin RBs. Most of them are products of their OL.

Gurley I do really like, but my concern with him is will he be able to take the beating at the NFL level. He has had injury issues in his past, but if healthy he is no joke. He is easily one of the top college players in the country.

Personally, I'd rather see you guys let Taliaferro see what he can do and draft another RB later (just my outside prospective). Because its been proven over and over you can find good RBs later in the draft.

The draft is always a tricky beast though and you can only trust your board. Ozzie has been pretty good about just letting the talent fall and not trying to rush a trade to grab somebody.


Ozzie is a draft stud, but even he can pull the trigger on a huge miss (Oher, Elam, Cody).

I'm way, WAY to unfamiliar with CFB to really have a say in this, but from what I've seen Gurley is dominant with speed and power.

Oh well, is probably all pipe dreams anyway.
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Nov 10 2014 03:03am
I'm totally in agreement with the history of poor value early, great value late trend when it comes to RBs. A trio of 3 complimentary RBs is the future of the NFL, while the days of a single workhorse are fading fast. But having said all that, I think that both Gurley and Gordon are going to be elite talents in this league for the next decade. When your offense is based so strongly on the running game, getting a stud for our ZBS is pretty important.

I know the history of Wisc RBs being a product of their O-line, but Gordon is just so fucking fast, especially with his first step. He would wreak havoc in Kubiak's offense. It'd be like having Jamal Charles



Of course, if they drafted a WR or CB, I wouldn't be upset either, just making the case for one of those 2 RBs in the first.

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I'm totally in agreement with the history of poor value early, great value late trend when it comes to RBs. A trio of 3 complimentary RBs is the future of the NFL, while the days of a single workhorse are fading fast. But having said all that, I think that both Gurley and Gordon are going to be elite talents in this league for the next decade. When your offense is based so strongly on the running game, getting a stud for our ZBS is pretty important.

I know the history of Wisc RBs being a product of their O-line, but Gordon is just so fucking fast, especially with his first step. He would wreak havoc in Kubiak's offense. It'd be like having Jamal Charles


Realistically though, what are the chances Kubiak is around for even next year? He's gonna' get another HC gig fast. The scheme fits the Ravens, but will it hold up under a lesser OC?

I honestly don't know.
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Nov 10 2014 03:06am
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Ozzie is a draft stud, but even he can pull the trigger on a huge miss (Oher, Elam, Cody).

I'm way, WAY to unfamiliar with CFB to really have a say in this, but from what I've seen Gurley is dominant with speed and power.

Oh well, is probably all pipe dreams anyway.


Every GM misses, but did he trade away picks for those players only to miss on them? My quick outside pure Ravens memory would say no he didn't trade picks for any of those players. I very well could be wrong, but I want to say he drafted those players without trading up?

I'm not trying to down play Gurley's freakishness. Dude can be sick nasty in the NFL. It all just depends on where you're picking at and what your main needs are (his injury issues aside).

My point is, Ozzie has never really been somebody to reach for a player right? He usually just sticks by his board and lets them fall.
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Nov 10 2014 03:07am
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Realistically though, what are the chances Kubiak is around for even next year? He's gonna' get another HC gig fast. The scheme fits the Ravens, but will it hold up under a lesser OC?

I honestly don't know.


The only hope is that he will give up on the hassle of being a HC, since that's part of what led to his mini-stroke. If he wants to be a head coach again, many needy teams will want him.

If he does leave, there may be understudies of his who can still run the offense.
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Nov 10 2014 03:09am
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I'm totally in agreement with the history of poor value early, great value late trend when it comes to RBs. A trio of 3 complimentary RBs is the future of the NFL, while the days of a single workhorse are fading fast. But having said all that, I think that both Gurley and Gordon are going to be elite talents in this league for the next decade. When your offense is based so strongly on the running game, getting a stud for our ZBS is pretty important.

I know the history of Wisc RBs being a product of their O-line, but Gordon is just so fucking fast, especially with his first step. He would wreak havoc in Kubiak's offense. It'd be like having Jamal Charles



Of course, if they drafted a WR or CB, I wouldn't be upset either, just making the case for one of those 2 RBs in the first.


Speed kills regardless of the position. Too much speed has never hurt any player. It's the rest of his make up and ability that is the question.

I'm not saying Gordon will be a bust at all, I'm just saying that I tend to be a little more weary of Wisc RBs.
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Nov 10 2014 03:11am
Quote (Hako @ Nov 10 2014 04:06am)
Every GM misses, but did he trade away picks for those players only to miss on them? My quick outside pure Ravens memory would say no he didn't trade picks for any of those players. I very well could be wrong, but I want to say he drafted those players without trading up?

I'm not trying to down play Gurley's freakishness. Dude can be sick nasty in the NFL. It all just depends on where you're picking at and what your main needs are (his injury issues aside).

My point is, Ozzie has never really been somebody to reach for a player right? He usually just sticks by his board and lets them fall.


Granted, all those picks were "take the best player on the board" type maneuvers, except maybe Oher as he was a position of need. Still he didn't trade up to get him.

Ozzie hasn't made any reaches in recent memory that I can recall, and his misses have been upside players that haven't panned out. I guess I'm pretty spoiled as a Ravens fan.

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The only hope is that he will give up on the hassle of being a HC, since that's part of what led to his mini-stroke. If he wants to be a head coach again, many needy teams will want him.

If he does leave, there may be understudies of his who can still run the offense.


That sounds like a shaky shot at best. If your name isn't Dick Lebeau, your not gonna' pass on a HC opportunity to be a long time coordinator.
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Nov 12 2014 05:18pm
Well just when I thought, "hey it's the bye week, we can't lose this week"...

Wrong.
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