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Apr 18 2023 04:14am
Quote (jackzors @ Apr 17 2023 07:56pm)
Eagles’ QB Jalen Hurts’ salary-cap numbers for the next four seasons after today’s $255 million extension:

2023: $6.15 million
2024: $13.56 million
2025: $21.77 million
2026: $31.77 million

Retract previous non team friendly statement :rofl:


Those are just the base line cap numbers and are a bit misleading. The signing bonus and guarantees will be spread throughout the contract and make the actual payouts higher. You guys are paying him an AAV of $51m.

The 2023 number is still his rookie contract. The new contract numbers (the extension) don't start until 2024 and even then the above doesn't list his 2027/2028 numbers. You guys back logged his contract and added a void year, or two. Basically added a fake year, or two to spread out the cap number. It looks good on paper and is good in the short run (because it frees up more cap right now), but he really isn't taking a team friendly deal.
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Quote (Bruv @ Apr 18 2023 12:00am)
So they can't afford to lock some of these other guys down long term and have to give short deals to them with incentives 🤨

Idk man


best qb u pay, hes not mahomegirl with kelcgril in the middle for flags.

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Those are just the base line cap numbers and are a bit misleading. The signing bonus and guarantees will be spread throughout the contract and make the actual payouts higher. You guys are paying him an AAV of $51m.

The 2023 number is still his rookie contract. The new contract numbers (the extension) don't start until 2024 and even then the above doesn't list his 2027/2028 numbers. You guys back logged his contract and added a void year, or two. Basically added a fake year, or two to spread out the cap number. It looks good on paper and is good in the short run (because it frees up more cap right now), but he really isn't taking a team friendly deal.


No, not quite. The cap charges for the next 4 seasons are all small, giving the team major flexibility to build around him and continue winning.

His 2027 and 2028 cap hit are heavy, which is when he'll get a restructure/extension and that cap hit will get converted to a signing bonus and spread out over the next 4 years after that.

Howie Rosemans secret sauce that makes this contract cap manageable is the assumption that it will not be the last contract the team gives that player. If the Eagles had an ounce of hesitation about Hurts, this would have been a 3 year deal. But when you sign a QB to a 5 year deal at that APY, you're really actually signing them to an 8 year deal and saying "we'll figure out the last half later".

It's the best case scenario for a team that is in "win now" mode but is young enough and in position to remain that way for a while.

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No, not quite. The cap charges for the next 4 seasons are all small, giving the team major flexibility to build around him and continue winning.

His 2027 and 2028 cap hit are heavy, which is when he'll get a restructure/extension and that cap hit will get converted to a signing bonus and spread out over the next 4 years after that.

Howie Rosemans secret sauce that makes this contract cap manageable is the assumption that it will not be the last contract the team gives that player. If the Eagles had an ounce of hesitation about Hurts, this would have been a 3 year deal. But when you sign a QB to a 5 year deal at that APY, you're really actually signing them to an 8 year deal and saying "we'll figure out the last half later".

It's the best case scenario for a team that is in "win now" mode but is young enough and in position to remain that way for a while.


This is from the found of Overthecap who's far more knowledgeable on this stuff than any of us are.

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Based on @AdamSchefter report on the cap hits my guess on Hurts contract would be minimum P5s in each of the next 4 seasons, a signing bonus of $23.294M, a 2024 option of $38.875M, a 2nd option in 2025 of $40.83M, and a 3rd option in 2026 of $49.785M.

That would work out to new money running cash flows of

Y1- $60M
Y2- $102M
Y3- $153M

Those sound pretty reasonable within the current market. Again just a guess.
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Apr 18 2023 04:39pm
Quote (Hako @ Apr 18 2023 06:28pm)
This is from the found of Overthecap who's far more knowledgeable on this stuff than any of us are.


Why do we care about anything besides the cap hit? Lol

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Apr 18 2023 04:55pm
Quote (Sixers @ Apr 18 2023 03:39pm)
Why do we care about anything besides the cap hit? Lol


Because there's far more that goes on with these contracts than just what the cap hit claims to be. You got a 1-2 year window on this deal before it balloons. Also with the void years, you're playing with fire. How long is that OL going to be able to stay together? Is Hurts even going to be the same player a few years from now? Will his style of play let him stay healthy?

With that said, it'll look more friendly once Herbert, Burrow and Lawrence get paid in the next year or two. Each one of those deals will likely be the new highest paid QB deal in the league. Each one breaking the next.
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Apr 19 2023 03:05pm
also lost in the super bowl.
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are the cardinals in the worst situation of any nfl franchise at this point? sheesh their outlook is depressing
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Well at least they got something from him on his way out. Apparently the Cardinals GM called him after the nfc championship..
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