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he's been injury prone most of his career, i hope KC over pays him and he lives on IR :rofl: :rofl:
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Quote (lucrative @ Apr 21 2022 02:04pm)
ypg doesnt equal talent. deebo isnt a #1 by any stretch. he's a great athlete in a great scheme, but he is a tweener that most offenses wont take advantage of, and apparently he isnt willing to do anymore. in a vanilla offense deebo wont produce as a #1 wr, and it would be dumb to handcuff him in such a way. he isnt close to adams metcalf or even hill as a receiving threat.


does yards per reception equal receiving talent? because deebo ranked #1 in that metric. does receiving yards equal talent? because he was #5 in that category

don't get me wrong i wouldn't pay him what he's probably asking either but he is elite there is no doubt
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Quote (Flopps @ Apr 21 2022 09:03pm)
does yards per reception equal receiving talent? because deebo ranked #1 in that metric. does receiving yards equal talent? because he was #5 in that category

don't get me wrong i wouldn't pay him what he's probably asking either but he is elite there is no doubt



Jones had nearly 1900 yds under Kyle in 1 less game. Not to mention all of the rbs Kylie’s scheme has helped in the past. While deebo is good, he is on the best offensive mind’s team and that accounts for the majority of his production. Deebo is a 800 yard #2 wr in any other offense.
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Jones had nearly 1900 yds under Kyle in 1 less game. Not to mention all of the rbs Kylie’s scheme has helped in the past. While deebo is good, he is on the best offensive mind’s team and that accounts for the majority of his production. Deebo is a 800 yard #2 wr in any other offense.


This is so wrong it hurts

Deebo is explosive. Pumps out 20+/30+ yd plays

Please keep in mind deebo had his production in 77 catches, and every 1200+ yard wr is at 100+ catches but deebo and chase

I get shanahan is going to have his wrs produce because he runs a very efficient offense, but you're belittling the work that these guys do and minimizing their skills to a single system/coach. Did we giving julio less credit for being with shanahan? No. Why would we do the same to deebo?

E/ imagine if deebo didn't play relief rb and had a ~110 catch season

That's ~1700 yards receiving (based on his career average ypc)

How is that not s tier wr play

Edit 2: you're getting me heated over a player I don't even care about. Let's fist fight

This post was edited by Flopps on Apr 22 2022 10:54am
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Quote (Flopps @ Apr 22 2022 12:50pm)
This is so wrong it hurts

Deebo is explosive. Pumps out 20+/30+ yd plays

Please keep in mind deebo had his production in 77 catches, and every 1200+ yard wr is at 100+ catches but deebo and chase

I get shanahan is going to have his wrs produce because he runs a very efficient offense, but you're belittling the work that these guys do and minimizing their skills to a single system/coach. Did we giving julio less credit for being with shanahan? No. Why would we do the same to deebo?

E/ imagine if deebo didn't play relief rb and had a ~110 catch season

That's ~1700 yards receiving (based on his career average ypc)

How is that not s tier wr play

Edit 2: you're getting me heated over a player I don't even care about. Let's fist fight


well julio is 4 inches taller, faster, and scored higher in every agility drill at the combine. julio was the prototypical #1 wr build. deebo isnt a great route runner to win outside, and he isnt a special enough athlete to out run or out man dbs on a regular basis. he is what he is, a great versatile player in an offense smart enough to use him correctly. he goes to the jets his career is doomed.
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well julio is 4 inches taller, faster, and scored higher in every agility drill at the combine. julio was the prototypical #1 wr build. deebo isnt a great route runner to win outside, and he isnt a special enough athlete to out run or out man dbs on a regular basis. he is what he is, a great versatile player in an offense smart enough to use him correctly. he goes to the jets his career is doomed.



Most peoples careers are doomed if they go to the Jets
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Quote (lucrative @ Apr 22 2022 02:12pm)
well julio is 4 inches taller, faster, and scored higher in every agility drill at the combine. julio was the prototypical #1 wr build. deebo isnt a great route runner to win outside, and he isnt a special enough athlete to out run or out man dbs on a regular basis. he is what he is, a great versatile player in an offense smart enough to use him correctly. he goes to the jets his career is doomed.


he has proven he can do all the things you claim he can't

i feel like i'm talking to a wall x.x

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Most peoples careers are doomed if they go to the Jets


:rofl:
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Quote (Flopps @ Apr 22 2022 03:45pm)
he has proven he can do all the things you claim he can't

i feel like i'm talking to a wall x.x



:rofl:


no, he hasnt. his only production is with shanahan. he's not a #1 wr, most people understand that. he isnt worth a first rd pick or 25 mil a year, if a team gives both they are going to be basement dwellers.
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He's an enticing player/play-maker, but I don't see many teams using him to his full potential. Not many creative offensive minds out there like Shanahan. Kind of reminds me of Percy Harvin.

I know the Ravens were asking about him, but I hope they don't get him because we don't have a creative mind at OC, nor do we have much cap space
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