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Mar 16 2022 06:13am
Quote (Hako @ Mar 15 2022 05:46pm)
Or he continues to get better and in 3 years him making 14.5m looks like a steal because a dozen more WRs have reset the market.

He is the youngest WR in FA and has been productive. He'll be the safety net Trevor badly needs. Hes got great hands and drops killed us this past season. Of course they had to overpay, that's the nature of FA.

Still need to get that true #1 though and I think that can be found in this draft. Really deep WR class.


It's 21.5m a year after this season, which sorry he is not worth that. I get that FA's get overpaid but damn it's an awful contract. Massive overpay for someone who is a fringe 2nd option / 3rd option. To put into perspective I doubt he sees the field much on the vikings and he is getting paid more than either WRs lol (I know JJ is on his rookie contract fml)
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Thread will probably age well but
Christian Kirk 4years, $84m
Jaguars
???????????


Yeah

Lol..
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Mar 16 2022 07:04pm
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It's 21.5m a year after this season, which sorry he is not worth that. I get that FA's get overpaid but damn it's an awful contract. Massive overpay for someone who is a fringe 2nd option / 3rd option. To put into perspective I doubt he sees the field much on the vikings and he is getting paid more than either WRs lol (I know JJ is on his rookie contract fml)


Other teams were offering similar amounts as well so it is what it is.

We'll have a much better look in 2 years if it's truly an awful contract or not.

And he'd be your #2. Thielen is in his decline.
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Mar 16 2022 07:29pm
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Other teams were offering similar amounts as well so it is what it is.

We'll have a much better look in 2 years if it's truly an awful contract or not.

And he'd be your #2. Thielen is in his decline.


Also, at the time Robinson and obj were the only 2 better available and best bet says Robinson wasn't coming back and obj is injured and most likely staying with rams. Give your #1 pick the best available surroundings and see what you got. What's a few million to a billionaire owner.
On another note, glad to see Miami going all in too around Tua. Best to know you failed sooner than later
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Mar 16 2022 08:01pm
Quote (Prone @ Mar 14 2022 01:19pm)
Thread will probably age well but
Christian Kirk 4years, $84m
Jaguars
???????????


No it's von Miller deal 6 years 120 million :rofl: dudes 32
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Mar 16 2022 09:08pm
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Other teams were offering similar amounts as well so it is what it is.

We'll have a much better look in 2 years if it's truly an awful contract or not.

And he'd be your #2. Thielen is in his decline.



I’d still take theilen next year over Kirk any day LOL. You are paying 21mil for a WR that has never gotten past 1K yards and only had 5tds last year… declining theilen had 10 in 13 games i don’t get how you homer this one.

Awful signing but I guess there weren’t many options in FA. Guess that’s what happens when you have had bad drafts of late
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Also, at the time Robinson and obj were the only 2 better available and best bet says Robinson wasn't coming back and obj is injured and most likely staying with rams. Give your #1 pick the best available surroundings and see what you got. What's a few million to a billionaire owner.
On another note, glad to see Miami going all in too around Tua. Best to know you failed sooner than later


OBJ would never come here and I didn't want him anyways. That diva has way too big of an ego.

Robinson maybe would come back, but after this franchise low balled the shit out of him a few years ago, which resulted in him basically telling us to fuck off, it might have left a bad taste in his mouth. Granted it's a different Front Office etc. now, but never know. I would love if we signed him though.

We were in the mix for the Amari Cooper trade as well, but the Browns outbid us, or he didn't want to come here.

Kirk is only 25, youngest FA WR on the market and has been in the league 4 years. He'll be in his physical prime throughout this contract, while most of the other guys are getting towards the back end of their physical prime.

It would be entirely different if they gave Kirk this contract while Godwin, Mike Williams, Gallup etc made it to FA, but their teams weren't about to let them walk and for good reason. Although Mike Williams got overpaid as well. He got $20m per with $40m guaranteed. Just like Golladay last year and his contract which is very similar to Kirk's. Except he got $40m guaranteed vs Kirk's $37m guaranteed.

The WR market has went way up in general in recent years. With the way the league has gone with being pass happy, pass catchers are cashing in all over the league with big contracts.
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Other teams were offering similar amounts as well so it is what it is.

We'll have a much better look in 2 years if it's truly an awful contract or not.

And he'd be your #2. Thielen is in his decline.


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I’d still take theilen next year over Kirk any day LOL. You are paying 21mil for a WR that has never gotten past 1K yards and only had 5tds last year… declining theilen had 10 in 13 games i don’t get how you homer this one.

Awful signing but I guess there weren’t many options in FA. Guess that’s what happens when you have had bad drafts of late


We aren't paying him 21m though, there's plenty of threads on twitter that really break down his contract.

That Thielen contract isn't much better. He hasn't been the same player since he signed that deal and Kirk has been a far more productive player than Thielen was at the same points of their careers. I don't understand why people think a 25 year old has already hit his peak lol. Thielen was already 24 when he entered the NFL.

edit: also, Kirk had 982 yards last year, lets not act like that's a far cry from 1k. That'd be like bragging about DJ Chark being great because he hit 1,008 yards one season.

This post was edited by Hako on Mar 16 2022 09:19pm
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We aren't paying him 21m though, there's plenty of threads on twitter that really break down his contract.

That Thielen contract isn't much better. He hasn't been the same player since he signed that deal and Kirk has been a far more productive player than Thielen was at the same points of their careers. I don't understand why people think a 25 year old has already hit his peak lol. Thielen was already 24 when he entered the NFL.

edit: also, Kirk had 982 yards last year, lets not act like that's a far cry from 1k. That'd be like bragging about DJ Chark being great because he hit 1,008 yards one season.



Theilen wasn’t given a shot to play in the NFL until he was 26 and the moment he was given a shot blew the doors open. Kirk has been given 4 years of having a shot and hasn’t really improved much. Again sure he’s a solid 2 I’ll agree with that. but you are paying him 21m. It’s 7mil this year which is fine for him but 21.5mil the remaining 3 years. If you release him after 2 which you probably will it’ll be a 10m dead cap.

Man you love hyping up your team shalll we do a gentleman’s 5K Fg wager that he doesn’t reach 1K yards this season?
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