you suppose? LOL... that was one of the worst calls ever made in the history of awful calls

how are you not surprised? Lmao that was a blatantly a terrible call he only got hit on the chest at that slapped on the chest. It extended the drive which led to a TD so I can understand some harsh feelings but that awful penalty wasn't the reason the Pats won.

Yes, i said it was bad i suppose, i would be pissed if i were a chiefs fan, what else do you want me to say? I'm a pats fan. I've seen worse this season, it was dwarfed in comparison to the no-call PI on Robey-Coleman...

Because if you watch the replay it was close enough to tom's helmet and you could visibly see him flinch. It couldve looked like a direct him to the helmet from where the ref called the flag. Remember, its what they see live not what we say on replay... lots of you kids, like yourself, seem to forget that... i agree tho, wasnt the reason we won.

You could make an argument that, that call jump started them in that 2nd half though.

That call was made on the 2nd play of that drive and if not called, that play was an incomplete. Would have been 3rd and 7 at their own 28 yard line. Instead that bogus penalty gave them a free 1st down and put them at their own 43 yard line.

Here's how their possessions were before that series with the bogus roughing penalty (all in the 2nd half).... Punt, FG, Turnover on Downs and INT.

Then they had that bogus penalty on their next series which jumped started everything and they scored a TD on all of their next 3 possessions (including that one).

It wasn't the reason they won that game, but it definitely had a big part in swinging the momentum in the Pats favor.

Yeah, 3rd and 7 would've been totally unmanageable, it's not like the patriots converted 100 3rd downs in the game... :bonk:

I know you've never played football, or have even been around live football, but momentum is a real thing and the Chiefs had all of it before that flag.

Honestly I don't know why I'm even responding to a delusional Pats fan anyways.

You know you've won an argument when the other person starts saying "I PLAYED POP WaRNER U DIDNT THEREFORE IM RIGHT UR WRONG" lmao...

Anyways, not sure why i'm responding to a guy who probably still thinks Dan Marino is better than Tom Brady.

Phantom PI>

I still haven't seen Hako admit this so i'm not sure it's true. He played Pop Warner too so he's really knowledgeable.