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Jan 23 2016 06:24pm
Quote (zPhantom @ Jan 23 2016 08:20pm)
im with you on this one...also beyond done with moe


Honesty, I'd be fine if we went with Hargreaves at 4 and solidified the secondary for years. Carr is overpaid but still decent. Byron jones last year, Orlando scandrick. We could move byron to safety and start hargreaves. Pick 4 is high... but he's ages better than Claiborne ever was as a prospect.

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Jan 23 2016 09:42pm
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Jan 23 2016 10:30pm
Quote (Legacy843 @ Jan 23 2016 07:24pm)
Honesty, I'd be fine if we went with Hargreaves at 4 and solidified the secondary for years. Carr is overpaid but still decent. Byron jones last year, Orlando scandrick. We could move byron to safety and start hargreaves. Pick 4 is high... but he's ages better than Claiborne ever was as a prospect.



After seeing the film that I saw I just think we get far more bang for our buck at #4 with Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack. Getting Scandrick back is going to be huge for our secondary and I suspect our pass rush is going to greatly improve when we get Randy Gregory a full offseason in the weight room//conditioning program. Not to mention that Demarcus Lawrence was getting plain nasty down the stretch this season. We don't even need to think about resigning hardy. This draft is also extremely deep at DB so we can get a decent CB and safety out of a later round. I don't think we're going to draft a QB, I really think RGIII or Colt Mccoy is comming back to town, both would be excellent backup QB's and RGIII would give them somebody to develop.
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Jan 23 2016 10:41pm
Quote (tman65ky @ Jan 24 2016 12:30am)
After seeing the film that I saw I just think we get far more bang for our buck at #4 with Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack. Getting Scandrick back is going to be huge for our secondary and I suspect our pass rush is going to greatly improve when we get Randy Gregory a full offseason in the weight room//conditioning program. Not to mention that Demarcus Lawrence was getting plain nasty down the stretch this season. We don't even need to think about resigning hardy. This draft is also extremely deep at DB so we can get a decent CB and safety out of a later round. I don't think we're going to draft a QB, I really think RGIII or Colt Mccoy is comming back to town, both would be excellent backup QB's and RGIII would give them somebody to develop.


I want hardy gone. The pass rush should be ok. Some nice young guys there improving a lot. I want either hargreaves or Mackensie Alexander from clemson at CB if possible. And I'd take rg3 over manziel in a heartbeat

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Jan 23 2016 10:48pm
Quote (tman65ky @ Jan 23 2016 08:30pm)
After seeing the film that I saw I just think we get far more bang for our buck at #4 with Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack. Getting Scandrick back is going to be huge for our secondary and I suspect our pass rush is going to greatly improve when we get Randy Gregory a full offseason in the weight room//conditioning program. Not to mention that Demarcus Lawrence was getting plain nasty down the stretch this season. We don't even need to think about resigning hardy. This draft is also extremely deep at DB so we can get a decent CB and safety out of a later round. I don't think we're going to draft a QB, I really think RGIII or Colt Mccoy is comming back to town, both would be excellent backup QB's and RGIII would give them somebody to develop.


We have access to game cut ups, not film bro.

Also, Jaylon Smith probably wont play a single down this coming season. If he does, it wont be until late in the season. Whatever team drafts him, should probably just plan on basically red-shirting him his rookie year.



To some above posts, I don't see Hargreaves as a top 5 prospect anymore. Possibly not even top 10. He isn't going to run 4.3 like some people think and he doesn't like to mix it up in the run game. He struggles against big WRs as well, seeing as he's not very big. He's just not really that physical at all. He's probably more suited for the Nickel CB spot.
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Jan 23 2016 11:00pm
Quote (Hako @ Jan 23 2016 09:48pm)
We have access to game cut ups, not film bro.

Also, Jaylon Smith probably wont play a single down this coming season. If he does, it wont be until late in the season. Whatever team drafts him, should probably just plan on basically red-shirting him his rookie year.



To some above posts, I don't see Hargreaves as a top 5 prospect anymore. Possibly not even top 10. He isn't going to run 4.3 like some people think and he doesn't like to mix it up in the run game. He struggles against big WRs as well, seeing as he's not very big. He's just not really that physical at all. He's probably more suited for the Nickel CB spot.


I don't necessarily agree with the nickel comment (although I don't disagree with it either) but I have certainly changed my tone on Hargreaves as well. I was a massive fanboy for awhile, touting him as possibly the #1 overall prospect in this class but I agree with you, he's definitely out of the top 5 and likely 10. I still think he'll go early as of right now for the potential he has shown but if he has a poor combine then he'll fall to middle of the first and Apple will likely take over as the #1 cb. I don't even bother wasting time pretending like Ramsey can be a CB at this point so not counting him.
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Jan 23 2016 11:02pm
Quote (Hako @ Jan 23 2016 11:48pm)
We have access to game cut ups, not film bro.

Also, Jaylon Smith probably wont play a single down this coming season. If he does, it wont be until late in the season. Whatever team drafts him, should probably just plan on basically red-shirting him his rookie year.



To some above posts, I don't see Hargreaves as a top 5 prospect anymore. Possibly not even top 10. He isn't going to run 4.3 like some people think and he doesn't like to mix it up in the run game. He struggles against big WRs as well, seeing as he's not very big. He's just not really that physical at all. He's probably more suited for the Nickel CB spot.


VH3 looked pretty good in run support, strongly disagree there.
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Jan 23 2016 11:05pm
Quote (WrathOfGod1337 @ Jan 23 2016 09:02pm)
VH3 looked pretty good in run support, strongly disagree there.


in what game
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Jan 23 2016 11:06pm
Quote (Randolph @ Jan 24 2016 01:00am)
I don't necessarily agree with the nickel comment (although I don't disagree with it either) but I have certainly changed my tone on Hargreaves as well. I was a massive fanboy for awhile, touting him as possibly the #1 overall prospect in this class but I agree with you, he's definitely out of the top 5 and likely 10. I still think he'll go early as of right now for the potential he has shown but if he has a poor combine then he'll fall to middle of the first and Apple will likely take over as the #1 cb. I don't even bother wasting time pretending like Ramsey can be a CB at this point so not counting him.


Pffft. Mackensie alexander over apple. Hell, I'd take kendall fuller over apple
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Jan 23 2016 11:45pm
Quote (Hako @ Jan 24 2016 12:05am)
in what game


Idk, all of the games I watched

I think I remember specifically him coming over to tackle Henry in their game vs Alabama
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