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Feb 13 2015 12:20am
Quote (Terps @ Feb 12 2015 10:15pm)
It's funny because we drafted a far more talented slot receiver in the 7th round with Michael Campanaro rofl. If he didn't pull his hammy vs the Bengals he'd already be recognized as the next Welker.


What's funny is that he has to sit almost the whole season because of a bad hammy. Your boys Allen Robinson and Marqise Lee battled hamstrings injuries all season long and still got it done rofl
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Feb 13 2015 12:21am
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You guys need to double dip at WR in this draft and not in the late rounds. It's a deep draft at WR again, like last year, but unless you guys can land a flat out steal in FA you have a group of average, at the very best WRs. Carr needs some weapons and Gurley is best served sitting for close to half the season.

This is also a deep draft at RB, so you guys could address that need later.


Our WR situation is not all that dire. With Streater returning from IR, we have several pretty good targets. James Jones stepped up last season, Streater has great hands, and TE Mychal Rivera is a good option in the passing game as well. Our 3rd string options are pretty solid, with Brice Butler coming up big in a few games and Andre Holmes has been everything we wanted. Out of the backfield both FBs on our roster have catching ability...RB remains a question mark. But really all we're missing in the passing game is someone with some speed. Our WRs are solid and use good body control and catch well, but nobody is really a deep threat. Carr had a pretty damn good season last year, in my opinion, especially since we didn't have a running game.

I think giving the Raiders offense a second dimension does way more for Carr than adding someone who would likely be a semi-reliable opportunity down field. Moving us to some 2nd or 3rd and manageables instead of 3rd and 10 after 2 0 yard runs could have a great impact on his development; not having to carry the whole team on your shoulders makes it easier to take some time and learn. Our WRs may be pretty average, but Carr got it done with average last year (and without, IMO, our best WR for the whole season). You know what didn't get it done? Our cobbling together of McFadden and Jones-Drew for some sort of Frankenstein's Monster approach to the RB spot. Turns out you need more than 2 uninjured legs, arms, and drops of talent between 2 "starting" players.

Picking up a 2nd round player who would spend time at 3rd or 4th WR won't do nearly as much as getting a player who would likely start at RB. A case could be made for a 1st round WR (Cooper, or a different one with a trade back), and he might start over Streater, but how much of an improvement would that be? We're still at 0 rushing potential despite having an OL that did a good job run blocking (and pass blocking, for that matter, way to go guys).

Whether or not we need a WR in the first 3 rounds is debatable. There's 0 reason to go for 2 in early rounds. Much better to draft 1 or 2 guys in later rounds and gamble on them. If they don't turn out, it's okay--we have enough to run an offense. Can the same be said of our RB situation?
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Feb 13 2015 12:42am
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Our WR situation is not all that dire. With Streater returning from IR, we have several pretty good targets. James Jones stepped up last season, Streater has great hands, and TE Mychal Rivera is a good option in the passing game as well. Our 3rd string options are pretty solid, with Brice Butler coming up big in a few games and Andre Holmes has been everything we wanted. Out of the backfield both FBs on our roster have catching ability...RB remains a question mark. But really all we're missing in the passing game is someone with some speed. Our WRs are solid and use good body control and catch well, but nobody is really a deep threat. Carr had a pretty damn good season last year, in my opinion, especially since we didn't have a running game.

I think giving the Raiders offense a second dimension does way more for Carr than adding someone who would likely be a semi-reliable opportunity down field. Moving us to some 2nd or 3rd and manageables instead of 3rd and 10 after 2 0 yard runs could have a great impact on his development; not having to carry the whole team on your shoulders makes it easier to take some time and learn. Our WRs may be pretty average, but Carr got it done with average last year (and without, IMO, our best WR for the whole season). You know what didn't get it done? Our cobbling together of McFadden and Jones-Drew for some sort of Frankenstein's Monster approach to the RB spot. Turns out you need more than 2 uninjured legs, arms, and drops of talent between 2 "starting" players.

Picking up a 2nd round player who would spend time at 3rd or 4th WR won't do nearly as much as getting a player who would likely start at RB. A case could be made for a 1st round WR (Cooper, or a different one with a trade back), and he might start over Streater, but how much of an improvement would that be? We're still at 0 rushing potential despite having an OL that did a good job run blocking (and pass blocking, for that matter, way to go guys).

Whether or not we need a WR in the first 3 rounds is debatable. There's 0 reason to go for 2 in early rounds. Much better to draft 1 or 2 guys in later rounds and gamble on them. If they don't turn out, it's okay--we have enough to run an offense. Can the same be said of our RB situation?


The gripe from Raiders fans all season is that Carr didn't have any weapons... A high draft pick RB isn't going to change that, let alone one who has always been injury prone.

All of your guy's WRs would be 3rd or 4th string WRs on most teams in the league. Like I said, at the very best, they're average and that's talking about the best you guys got.

I forgot 1/2 of the other stuff you said because I mainly skimmed through the post. Sad on my part I know, but there's really no point trying to debate it with a fan of the team. We all look at our teams in the best light possible, but you guys don't have shit at WR lol. Streater coming back from IR? Great, another average at the very best WR to throw into the mix of WRs.

I'm probably coming off sounding like an asshole, but it is what it is. You guys had a very good draft this past draft. Mack is a stud, Carr looks like he can definitely be your franchise QB. You guys got what looks to be a long term player in Gabe Jackson on the OL and got what looks like some solid late round value in the back end of the draft.
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Feb 13 2015 01:07am
Quote (Hako @ Feb 13 2015 01:20am)
What's funny is that he has to sit almost the whole season because of a bad hammy. Your boys Allen Robinson and Marqise Lee battled hamstrings injuries all season long and still got it done rofl


If by "got it done" you mean got exposed, then yeah, they got a lot done alright rofl.
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Feb 13 2015 01:14am
Quote (Terps @ Feb 12 2015 11:07pm)
If by "got it done" you mean got exposed, then yeah, they got a lot done alright rofl.


Please Terps son, break it down for me bro. How exactly did they get exposed rofl
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Feb 13 2015 02:31am
Quote (Hako @ Feb 13 2015 02:14am)
Please Terps son, break it down for me bro. How exactly did they get exposed rofl


Marqise Lee: 83rd in catch% (25% of snaps). Body catcher. Too frail for the NFL.
IR15: 76th in QB rating when targeted, 3 INTs when targeted, 87th in YAC/Rec. Too slow to get separation, too frail for the NFL.

Both tied for 80th in yds per rec.
Both suck.
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Feb 13 2015 04:03am
bengals need a fucking DT bad
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Feb 13 2015 04:04am
feel free to leave out the games they missed and where they where they were on the dc

i really don't even need to bring up how cherry picked your "stats" are either ;)
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Feb 13 2015 06:04am
The #1 pick will not be Winston
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Feb 13 2015 07:08am
Ravens fans are experts on bad WRs since they draft them all the time.

So I gotta side with Terps on this.
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