I just don't see how Manziel would be able to hold up in Bruce Arians' offense. His QBs are always among the league lead in hits. Not a big fan of him to begin with, but in Bruce Arians' offense he's a gimmick play WR, which isn't worth drafting.
Arm strength isn't a concern of mine with Manziel as he's in the same ballpark as Andrew Luck, but there's a ton of concerns in his game after that.
Personally I don't think we'll draft a QB, Palmer/Stanton appear to be Arians' boys and Lindley showed no signs of lost confidence in the preseason and has talent/fits the offense. Should be focusing on getting players who can play the man coverage assignments that Todd Bowles will put them in(CB/S), players to protect the deep drop 5-man protection plays Bruce Arians calls(OL, LT in particular but C/RG/RT are all viable as well, talent > position), and players to rush the passer so our man coverage isn't getting abused because of the time the opposing QB has to throw the ball(OLB).

yes please oh god..

minus round 4; we have HD, White (who we are in resigning talks with) and julio. ... although with the loss of julio I could see some 4 wide out sets next year.

Quickly before I go to bed I just wanted to say this. I don't get everyones fascination with us desperately needing a pass rusher. Yes I have us drafting one only because the talent is too good to pass up in the second there but Acho and Okafor have both been injured. Acho proved to be a threat and Okafor is loaded with potential, plus Abraham, while he is aging, has been outstanding. When Acho and Okafor come back, that trio can make it through the year just fine so unless a pick is too good to pass up, I have no issue with not even picking a pass rusher.

As for Manziel, it's not my first choice but I see it happening. Idk why, but it's what my gut is telling me will happen atm.

Abraham's been pretty bad outside a couple games against garbage tackles, Acho was useless last year, Okafor's done nothing, Alexander was a terrible signing(~3mil for a STer?). Matt Shaughnessy is the best OLB on our team simply because of his discipline in the running game, though he needs to be off the field in pass rushing situations. Perhaps Okafor/Moch/Abraham/etc could be his rotation at one side but there's nothing on the other side unless we're moving Dansby(can't let him go again) outside to get Minter on the field(in base).

As for Manziel I have more trust in Keim than to make that mistake. He knows what Bruce Arians wants to do, QB options would not include an undersized passer with poor footwork/pocket presence who lacks the maturity to lead an NFL offense. I wouldn't be terribly disappointed with Bortles/Carr in the 1st but we'd likely have to trade up to get them and I don't have that high of grades on them. Guys like Mettenberger, Matthews, Garoppolo are certainly options if Keim/Arians want to draft a mid round QB with upside that fit the system.

Oh god I have the biggest boner for Garoppolo after looking into him the other week. Sure he plays shit competition but I like the kid. As for OLB, of course Okafor hasn't done anything, that's like saying Cooper hasn't done anything, they've been injured lol. I just have more faith in those guys I guess. Don't get me wrong, I won't be upset if we snatched up a pass rusher, but in my perfect world we go all OL the first 3 rounds (assuming the value is there) unless a stud corner falls, then pass rush and QB.

I've seen us being mocked a rb a few times and that'll kill me if it happens. Mendy is starting to pick up slightly, Taylor is a solid change of pace back and what more can be said about Ellington?

Raiders pick Carlos Hyde is my guess.

e/ Somebody may pick him even late 1st rd.

This post was edited by said_aouita on Dec 7 2013 02:26pm

Okafor was pretty much invisible in the preseason as well though, and didn't earn playing time over some pretty bad players(before getting injured). I still have my doubts about him in space, though I do think he can be a situation pass rusher, which is what we do need with Shaughnessy.

I don't want 3 straight OL. If we can't get a significant upgrade at S/OLB/CB or decide to draft a QB then OL should be our 1st round pick. I think in an ideal world Keim/Arians would draft a left tackle to start, have Sowell/Massie compete for the RT position, Colledge restructure to stay as the RG, Cooper at LG, and then look for a center in the mid/late rounds to back-up/develop behind Sendlein. If the tackle isn't ready to start then Sowell remains at LT, Massie at RT. If Colledge won't restucture and we need some cap space, cut him and Fanaika remains at RG(unless Watford can surpass him). Winston has been terrible and shouldn't be brought back in any scenario, Gibson doesn't belong on an NFL roster, we're lucky Lyle's incredibly durable/tough.

I wouldn't mind a late round RB with some size. Not interested in paying Mendenhall much to return, Ryan Williams will be cut, Alphonso Smith is nothing special. As seen last year with the 2 we got there's quality late at the RB position.

I just hope this Davante Adams kid isn't a product of weaker conference play and a good QB throwing to him. Haven't personally watched him play at all though

Yep. He'd be a great pick in that spot if we select Teddy Bridgewater number one overall. If we go Jadeveon Clowney first overall, I'd still take him there if we move into a 4-3 defense next season. Maybe move J.J. Watt inside to DT (he's big enough at 290 and can bulk up to 300) and have the rookies Jadeveon Clowney and Jackson Jeffcoat at defensive end. And then we'll see what's up when teams try to stop Watt. LOL.

Opposing offenses would pay dearly off the edge and see a relentless pass rush if Watt isn't already getting to them inside. We'd be able to stuff the run as well. I'm so excited about taking our crappy defense to the next level. I know we need a quarterback but man, I know the Texans can cause some havoc for many years to come with a dominating defense and run game. Heck, Schaub sucks and he went 12-4 last season with that same formula.

We just didn't have the guns on defense to beat the Patriots at Foxboro in the divisional round. Cushing was out...
And well, we pretty much only had J.J. Watt on defense. What we need are some more elite players on defense!

DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE! If the Texans are smart they will reload and enter 2014 with a dominating defense.

This post was edited by Madmartigan on Dec 7 2013 05:06pm

When you inevitably make a Clinton-Dix sig for whoever drafts him, make sure you spell it Jaja Clinton-Dix