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Nov 19 2013 08:36pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Nov 19 2013 07:34pm)
Like Clowney better :(


Barr is the best player in this draft, you'll see. :)
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Nov 19 2013 08:39pm
Quote (Randolph @ Nov 19 2013 09:33pm)
Pack on a little muscle, I can see Andre Johnson and that's not exaggerating.

He's 6'4, 205, 4.5 40, good hands, good route running, he won't be a stud from day 1 but he works hard, comes from a bit of a difficult situation (I know a bit about his back story from him playing at ASU so I get to hear a bit more about him than some of the other guys).

Look at it this way, Evans and Watkins are ready to make impacts now and both have pretty high ceilings and fairly high floors.  Strong has an even higher ceiling and is already at the lowest level of production I can see him at and he's one of the top receivers in the nation.

And before anyone says bias, I'm not even an ASU fan, I freaking hate ASU.

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@Illusions

I'll be honest, I straight up forgot about Lester but as you said, both those guys are are one year deals (at least as I recall as well) and both have been next to nothing special up until this year and even this year, they're only average my friend but they're playing well enough to warrant a bigger pay day each.  Instead of spending the money there, draft some young guys with loads of talent and spend the money elsewhere (like maybe on Andre Johnson ;) )


Andre would be nice but I think I'd prefer a trade for Fitzgerald :)
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Nov 19 2013 08:44pm
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Andre would be nice but I think I'd prefer a trade for Fitzgerald :)


Fine by me, I'd love to see him in Carolina.

Do that and you won't have to worry about who you take in the first round. :D
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Nov 19 2013 08:49pm
highly doubt cleveland will take a corner in first round we need a right takle and a running back
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Nov 19 2013 08:53pm
Quote (xtraflac @ Nov 19 2013 07:49pm)
highly doubt cleveland will take a corner in first round we need a right takle and a running back


Different Browns' fans give me conflicting reports.

Either way, in this scenario, there's definitely no RB worth taking in the first and that early on, there's no OT worth taking either. On the other hand, Verrett is a stud and you pair him up alongside Haden, you have a top cornerback duo in the league and help to solidify one of the only weak spots in an emerging dominate defense.

Have to remember quality of player, not just need.
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Nov 19 2013 08:56pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Nov 19 2013 06:34pm)
Like Clowney better :(


Clowney vs Barr all depends on the type of player you want.

If you want the pure 4-3 freak Pass Rushing RDE, then you go with Clowney.

If you want the player who can do everything, then you go with Barr.
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Nov 19 2013 08:58pm
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Clowney vs Barr all depends on the type of player you want.

If you want the pure 4-3 freak Pass Rushing RDE, then you go with Clowney.

If you want the player who can do everything, then you go with Barr.

I'll take either. I have no idea if we'll stay with a 3-4 defense or move to a 4-3 next year. We may have an entirely new coaching staff.
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Nov 19 2013 09:02pm
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I'll take either. I have no idea if we'll stay with a 3-4 defense or move to a 4-3 next year. We may have an entirely new coaching staff.


As would I and I wouldn't have an issue if we took either Barr, Clowney or Bridgewater. Bridgewater is the obvious choice, but I think Barr is an ideal fit for our Defensive scheme. The guy (Barr) is going to be great.
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Nov 19 2013 09:08pm
Quote (Randolph @ Nov 19 2013 07:15pm)
One year wonder, not worth a damn and one week wonder.


with or without your opinion of our rb's we have 3 of them right now that are decent and there is no way we take rb before we grab a DE or WR we have absolute not depth there.
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Nov 19 2013 09:18pm
Quote (Benny21 @ Nov 19 2013 06:26pm)
I think Safety is fine. Tyvon is honestly good enough where we don't have to worry about having to replace Charles immediately after he leaves. Tyvon makes up for whoever plays opposite him.
CB is kinda meh. I've never been a big fan of DJ Hayden but the franchise seems set on him so I doubt they'd even give it serious look this early in the draft

But I would definitely be on board to draft OL in both rounds 1 and 2. Glaring holes. Outside of Wiz/Veldheer, everyone has got to go.


I'm gonna disagree here. Branch is good but he's not elite. And even if Hayden does pan out, that still leaves us with 2 weak links in the secondary. OL and DB are definitely our biggest concerns in this draft, with RB/WR/DT/DE as secondary needs (I'd love another pass rusher but we need offensive weapons).
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