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Mar 19 2013 09:03am
Falcons have two huge holes.... De and cb we WILL go for these within our first two picks. All of the news coming out of Atlanta is DEF and Nolan handling the draft lol. If we don't sign a de/grimes back then look for atl to be on laser point for def talent. Maybe in later rounds bpa but early that's what the falcons will focus on.
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Mar 19 2013 09:31am
IMHO we are not going corner in the first round, we will go DT because we must have a new miller or better.
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Mar 19 2013 12:34pm
On my phone, not responding to everyone until I'm home, its too much of a pain but I just wanted to say, you guys do realize this is all what I would do if I were each team in these positions, right? Yes I know what teams say they need and all that jazz but this is what I would do. I'll do a 3 round what I think teams will do closer to the draft, hell, may even get the gumption to do it later this week, we'll see.
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Mar 19 2013 04:43pm
Are there any teams you could see making a trade? I know you mentioned Miami and Oakland the other day... anyone else?
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Quote (draino @ Mar 18 2013 08:13pm)
1. I like the receiver, but I think I like Hopkins better.
2. How good is Reddick? Starter ready? I like the position pick.
3. Dont know anything about the player but we need a safety, even if we sign Ed Reed.
4. Dont mind the last two picks.


1. Receivers are tough to place this year. There really are 4 candidates for the top receiver and then Hopkins on the edge making a case for 5 guys fighting for that top spot.
2. I personally think he's starter ready but I couldn't decide between Reddick or Jenkins there but I went with Reddick because I just personally think he's a better football player.
3. Honestly, Rambo could be a top 3-5 safety this draft if it weren't for his off the field issues. Idk how effective he'd be at SS but I believe he could do it in the event that Reed is signed.
4. Kelce is a solid TE but he needs to develop some so I like him on the Texans where he doesn't HAVE to be a major receiving threat and he can be worked in slowly and he's a good blocker. Geathers is some major value in round 5 at an area of need for you guys now.

Quote (Diggins @ Mar 18 2013 11:34pm)
still think the bears are going tackle w/ 2x serviceable-good tackles and no mlb?

i'm just not buying it. ogletree is an urlacher clone, and he'll be a bear if available @ 20.


Broman, you guys overpaid for a majorly overrated LT in Bushrod, I'm sorry man, it's true. Drew Brees made Bushrod seem like a top notch LT when in reality, he's not all that good. He allowed SOOOOOOO much pressure last year but Brees' quick release saved both Brees' and Bushrod's asses. With all of that being said, this is still what I think each team should do if this scenario were to play out. I believe the Bears will go ILB if one that makes sense is there but that's not what I would do. :P Wait for my what I think the teams will actually do mock in a few weeks or, as I said above, maybe sooner.

Quote (ChiefBuzzin @ Mar 19 2013 12:08am)
Wat. If for some sick twisted reason, the Chiefs were to NOT take Joeckel, why on earth would they take a D-Lineman?

In the last six drafts... four of the first round picks have been D Linemen... In fact, 3 of our last 5 first rounders have been D Linemen. How many of them have been worth a shit as D-Linemen? How many of them are even still with the Chiefs? How many can you even name? In this same span, the chiefs have spent 9x 1-3 round picks on D-Linemen (4x DTs, 5x DEs). Our line is still sketch.  I strongly assure you that's a position the Chiefs are going to stay away from in the first round. We may go after someone like Brandon Williams in the 4th, but definitely not with the first overall.

I really think you oughta reconsider Joeckel, or any position OTHER than DL


Why you have to quote the whole thing? lol. Anyway, you pretty much made my case for why they need to get some top notch talent on that DL. They kept their offensive line in tact and it's not exactly a horrible one to begin with. This year is sooo deep with offensive and defensive linemen but it's deeper with offensive line guys so it's smarter to address the DL with their top pick since they don't have a second now, and then go OL with their third. Look at what you got in this scenario. For a minute there, Dallas Thomas was a first round pick. He fell all the way to the third simply because there was a lack of need for his position throughout the second round with teams addressing other needs first due to the depth of this OL class, that's pretty damn good. One of the top defensive lineman, a top 10 offensive lineman (Thomas, Warford, Armstead and Long are all fairly equal talent imo) who is versatile, a great receiver and an underrated ILB, I think that's a pretty damn solid first 4 rounds for the Chiefs.

Quote (TheE1337 @ Mar 19 2013 05:30am)
Barret Jones falling to the 3rd?  Why did his draft stock plummet?


Tackle > Guard > Center in the NFL. I'd say Tackle > Center > Guard but teams just don't draft that way and I understand why. Jones is the top center in the draft but like the 5th best guard and 10th best tackle (just roughing those guard and tackle numbers) so he falls, just how it is unfortunately but hey, good for the Boys, they need interior line help and Jones can play all 3 spots very well.

Quote (hammerdanjbg @ Mar 19 2013 08:03am)
Falcons have two huge holes.... De and cb we WILL go for these within our first two picks. All of the news coming out of Atlanta is DEF and Nolan handling the draft lol. If we don't sign a de/grimes back then look for atl to be on laser point for def talent. Maybe in later rounds bpa but early that's what the falcons will focus on.


Again, what I think should happen, not what I think will happen haha. Yes, you're right and if you didn't notice, Datone Jones is a DE (and a very fucking good one at that haha). But, let's just say their focus is to go DE and CB with their first two picks (going with the better player at either position first and then forcing the second) here's the options.

Datone Jones is a better football player than Darius Slay or Johnthan Banks, the next 2 corners taken so he goes first. Corner is the next pick now. The Falcons wouldn't risk a pick on Mathieu, Marc Anthony, Robert Alford and Tharold Simon are the next 3 corners available on the board and while I do love all of those corners, they are not worth a second round pick by any stretch of the imagination so there's that.

Now, if they were to go corner first, it'd have to be Darius Slay unless they fall in love with someone else, but for this scenario, as things played out, it's Slay. So now a DE in the second, there's Cornelius Washington, Jamie Collins and Corey Lemonier, none of which warrant a second round pick or are really set to play DE in a 4-3, all of those guys would be better fits in a 3-4 imo but of the bunch, Washington would be the best bet so Slay and Washington are the picks here, wasted picks on lesser talent.

I'm not trying to shoot down what you're saying, I'm just trying to show you my perspective on things and why I drafted the way I did for the Falcons, trying to address areas of concern in an order that makes sense to maximize the talent you receive.

One last thing, I did really want to give you a corner and I almost did in the third, giving you either Logan Ryan or Jordan Poyer but Jelani Jenkins was just TOOOOOOOO good to pass up haha.

Quote (bob(Cs2) @ Mar 19 2013 08:31am)
IMHO we are not going corner in the first round, we will go DT because we must have a new miller or better.


Yeah I'm starting to think it less and less too but I started this on Sunday before the news about Star was released so the next mock is going to be quite a bit different.

EDIT:

Shit, thought I had everyone's questions/comments haha, 1 sec.

Quote (Terps @ Mar 19 2013 03:43pm)
Are there any teams you could see making a trade? I know you mentioned Miami and Oakland the other day... anyone else?


I wanted to, I wanted to do this SOOOOOOO badly but I couldn't bring myself to do it. The Jets trade Revis somewhere for a first and whatever else they get. The Jets then trade their 2013 First, 2013 4th and something in 2014 to Kansas City for the #1 overall and the Jets draft Geno Smith to jump ahead of the Raiders, Eagles, Browns, Cardinals and Bills.

As I said, Miami trading into the top 5 for Joeckel or Fisher.

Oakland should trade down if ANYONE offers them their first and ANY other picks this year. They just need more and more picks to acquire some mild form of talent for their team.

If the Niners fall in love with someone, look for them to move up to grab someone and trade off that massive compilation of picks they have.

This post was edited by Randolph on Mar 19 2013 04:56pm
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Mar 19 2013 05:58pm
Thanks for the reply as always! Maybe the extra picks atl got can fill some holes.

Edit: I love our first pick and we have found small school guys who turned into starters in late rounds(cb). Also all of our picks may be diff depending on d choosen. So guessing is always fun lol.

This post was edited by hammerdanjbg on Mar 19 2013 06:03pm
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Quote (hammerdanjbg @ Mar 19 2013 04:58pm)
Thanks for the reply as always! Maybe the extra picks atl got can fill some holes.

Edit: I love our first pick and we have found small school guys who turned into starters in late rounds(cb). Also all of our picks may be diff depending on d choosen. So guessing is always fun lol.


If I can find the time later this week, I'll do my what I think will happen mock a little earlier than normal. Its never right because one wrong pick will fuck the entire thing, but it's usually a very different mock.

And next week's mock is going to be drastically different too due to Star being the top player once again...hint hint haha.
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Mar 20 2013 01:20pm
You think Tavon Austin would fall to 23? I mean, I know he's kind of short, but he just seems like such a dangerous runner once he has the ball. I'd love for him to work the slot in Baltimore, would be the total opposite of Boldin lol
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Quote (Terps @ Mar 20 2013 02:20pm)
You think Tavon Austin would fall to 23? I mean, I know he's kind of short, but he just seems like such a dangerous runner once he has the ball. I'd love for him to work the slot in Baltimore, would be the total opposite of Boldin lol


That might just happen imo...I don't think Austin is first round talent.

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Quote (TheE1337 @ Mar 20 2013 02:09pm)
That might just happen imo...I don't think Austin is first round talent.


This because I don't think any WR, QB, RB, TE, C or S is a first round talent this year lol.

But, if you look ahead of the #23 pick, what teams are really in the market for a receiver above other positions?

St. Louis and the Jets are really the only ones and the Jets won't do it and St. Louis doesn't want another Amendola, they need a big, physical receiver, not a burner slot guy.
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