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You're so sure that you're making me dig it up? I know for a fact you're wrong. The team the wr plays for doesn't change his projection

If big tourney dfs, you're correct. In h2h leagues, there's zero evidence to suggest what you're saying. Its a myth


ZzZzZzZzZz you're going to post the first random Google'd forum post you find that has guys just as unqualified as you giving you confirmation bias. Post an article or a podcast from a major or reputable site that backs your claims.
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You're so sure that you're making me dig it up? I know for a fact you're wrong. The team the wr plays for doesn't change his projection

If big tourney dfs, you're correct. In h2h leagues, there's zero evidence to suggest what you're saying. Its a myth


Can it work out? Yes of course but it takes some real special talent yo do it. You need consistency and hot fire from the QB all season long and you have to have the coaching philosophy that supports a heavy passing game even when it normally would get gamescripted out. it's very risky and the cons far outweigh the pros of this strategy. They can balance each other out but youre generally restricting the total amount of opportunities your WRs can receive. It is widely believed that opportunity on average will score points more consistently than talent. Of course there are the exceptions to this rule (genenerally the first round of a draft, which is why they are getting picked first). So basically the formula would go the higher the opportunities your team has the lower amount of upside you'll need to score enough to win.. And vice versa is also true. Talent leads to upside and the higher the upside you have on your team the lower the floor and generally lower opportunities are needed to score enough to win. (Again there are exceptions to this rule). Again, opportunity > talent. So with that formula in mind, the strategy to have two of the same WRs on your team to start completely contradicts that strategy. You lower your overall opportunity which lowers the floor but the strategy also caps your upside at the same time. Can you win with it? Sure. Does it happen often enough where it works out and takes you to cashing out? No, theres much better strategies to follow that statistically leads to cashing out at a higher %. NOTHING IN FANTASY IS GUARANTEED SO PLAYING THE RIGHT ODDS AND PERCENTAGES IS PARAMOUNT TO SUCESS LIKE IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF BET GAME OR COMPETITION.

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ZzZzZzZzZz you're going to post the first random Google'd forum post you find that has guys just as unqualified as you giving you confirmation bias. Post an article or a podcast from a major or reputable site that backs your claims.


Nice job, I'm guessing you searched up and down and found nothing to prove your point so you're putting on me to prove what you're saying is false, and the wildest thing is when I post one of a dozen articles with people agreeing that it lowers your ceiling and increases your floor, you're going to tell me they aren't credible sources despite you not having a single decent source proving your point.

Its a lose/lose for me and you've found your hill to die on. Prove your point with a real statical source or continue to tell people here something that's a myth. Either way, move on.

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Still waiting for us all to get along
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Can it work out? Yes of course but it takes some real special talent yo do it. You need consistency and hot fire from the QB all season long and you have to have the coaching philosophy that supports a heavy passing game even when it normally would get gamescripted out. it's very risky and the cons far outweigh the pros of this strategy. They can balance each other out but youre generally restricting the total amount of opportunities your WRs can receive. It is widely believed that opportunity on average will score points more consistently than talent. Of course there are the exceptions to this rule (genenerally the first round of a draft, which is why they are getting picked first). So basically the formula would go the higher the opportunities your team has the lower amount of upside you'll need to score enough to win.. And vice versa is also true. Talent leads to upside and the higher the upside you have on your team the lower the floor and generally lower opportunities. (Again there are exceptions to this rule). So with that formula in mind, the strategy to have two of the same WRs on your team to start completely contradicts that strategy. You lower your overall opportunity which lowers the floor but the strategy also caps your upside at the same time. Can you win with it? Sure. Does it happen often enough where it works out and takes you to cashing out? No, theres much better strategies to follow that statistically leads to cashing out at a higher %. NOTHING IN FANTASY IS GUARANTEED SO PLAYING THE RIGHT ODDS AND PERCENTAGES IS PARAMOUNT TO SUCESS LIKE IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF BET GAME OR COMPETITION.


If Russell Wilson throws the ball on average 45 times a game and matcalf averages 12 targets and lockett 10 targets, whether they are both in your lineup in fantasy or not doesnt change that. You continue to talk about how it lowers your ceiling and I actually agree with that. Situationally though it doesn't lower your expectation of winning.

Obviously you aren't starting 2 wrs like landry and Higgins, but for the top duos in the league, you can play them all season long and see no decrease in your odds of winning on a weekly basis
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Nov 15 2020 07:58pm
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Nice job, I'm guessing you searched up and down and found nothing to prove your point so you're putting on me to prove what you're saying is false, and the wildest thing is when I post one of a dozen articles with people agreeing that it lowers your ceiling and increases your floor, you're going to tell me they aren't credible sources despite you not having a single decent source proving your point.

Its a lose/lose for me and you've found your hill to die on. Prove your point with a real statical source on continue to tell people here something that's a myth. Either way, move on.


This didn't age well, should have typed it out before I spit some hot knowledge at you.
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If Russell Wilson throws the ball on average 45 times a game and matcalf averages 12 targets and lockett 10 targets, whether they are both in your lineup in fantasy or not doesnt change that. You continue to talk about how it lowers your ceiling and I actually agree with that. Situationally though it doesn't lower your expectation of winning.

Obviously you aren't starting 2 wrs like landry and Higgins, but for the top duos in the league, you can play them all season long and see no decrease in your odds of winning on a weekly basis


Metcalf and locket put up like up like 13 points today. This is exhibit A why this strategy doesn't pay off. Its not consistent enough.
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Nov 15 2020 08:18pm
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Metcalf and locket put up like up like 13 points today. This is exhibit A why this strategy doesn't pay off. Its not consistent enough.


Yea. I forgot that starting 2 wrs on different teams means you won't have 2 guys with their lowest of expectations

That only happens if they're on the same team right? If you had dk and fuller, boyd, or Michael Thomas instead of lockett, you still had a shit week


Until you can prove that them being on the same team decreases your odds of winning each week, its a myth.

Two top 10 wrs in fantasy is as consistent as it gets lol

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Yea. I forgot that starting 2 wrs on different teams means you won't have 2 guys with their lowest of expectations

That only happens if they're on the same team right? If you had dk and fuller, boyd, or Michael Thomas instead of lockett, you still had a shit week


Until you can prove that them being on the same team decreases your odds of winning each week, its a myth.

Two top 10 wrs in fantasy is as consistent as it gets lol


You are insane. Do us all a favor and stop quoting me. I'll do the same
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You are insane. Do us all a favor and stop quoting me. I'll do the same


Sure. You preach your ideas and I'll preach mine
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