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Aug 4 2014 09:19am
Quote (Benny21 @ Aug 4 2014 10:18am)
read the article and what he said makes perfect sense.


read my post and what i said makes perfect sense.
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Quote (Cheesehead @ Aug 4 2014 10:19am)
read my post and what i said makes perfect sense.


Okay then.
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Aug 4 2014 09:24am
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I agree and disagree. I think Tarell Brown and Carlos Rogers will be good this year.
But outside of that, who the fuck do we have? I view Hayden as a lost cause TBH.
Although, I have heard that our two rookies, McGill and Dowling, have shown nice flashes in camp. Still, they won't be immediate contributors.

But I agree with you that CB's are definitely our weakest position on defense.





Also here's a nice article on Derek Carr and his preparations

http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/derek-carr-i-always-think-about-what-i-did-wrong


yea I dont even think of Hayden, thats pretty sad..I still dont think our starters are very good either, they will be just average..both are going to give up some big plays during the season, unfortunately..IMO
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Aug 4 2014 09:25am
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yea I dont even think of Hayden, thats pretty sad..I still dont think our starters are very good either, they will be just average..both are going to give up some big plays during the season, unfortunately..IMO


Probably true. We can only hope that Charles and Tyvon can come over the top and help. Still, having Mack, Woodley, Tuck, and Smith coming at the passer will definitely help our secondary.

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Aug 4 2014 09:33am
Quote (Benny21 @ Aug 4 2014 08:10am)
I agree and disagree. I think Tarell Brown and Carlos Rogers will be good this year.
But outside of that, who the fuck do we have? I view Hayden as a lost cause TBH.
Although, I have heard that our two rookies, McGill and Dowling, have shown nice flashes in camp. Still, they won't be immediate contributors.

But I agree with you that CB's are definitely our weakest position on defense.


He's a lost cause after 1 season? :wacko: Glad you aren't running the franchise :lol:
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Aug 4 2014 09:35am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Aug 4 2014 10:33am)
He's a lost cause after 1 season?  :wacko:  Glad you aren't running the franchise :lol:


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He's a lost cause after 1 season?  :wacko:  Glad you aren't running the franchise :lol:


He's been injury prone his entire football career, and I'm not including his freak injury his last year of college. Throw in the fact that he's missed his first 2 off-season programs (where a majority of rookie development happens). He's undersized, too weak, and way behind on learning our system and the game. "Lost cause" might be a bit much, but I've pretty much hated the pick since day 1.
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He's been injury prone his entire football career, and I'm not including his freak injury his last year of college. Throw in the fact that he's missed his first 2 off-season programs (where a majority of rookie development happens). He's undersized, too weak, and way behind on learning our system and the game. "Lost cause" might be a bit much, but I've pretty much hated the pick since day 1.


so you're management team isn't very bright in the first place for picking this guy...?
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so you're management team isn't very bright in the first place for picking this guy...?


Yes. It was McKenzie's worst pick as GM. The guy I wanted, Sheldon Richardson - from my school, Mizzou - went the very next pick...
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Yes. It was McKenzie's worst pick as GM. The guy I wanted, Sheldon Richardson - from my school, Mizzou - went the very next pick...


lol. all front offices make bad picks from time to time. the packers haven't had the most success in the first couple rounds wisely in many seasons.

Ahmad Carroll... lol pls
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