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people actually showing up to vote when its time can change that though, and there is never even close to this level of energy about voting being important by the majority of people during the legislative voting season, and its not because of anything other than ignorance. People are so ignorant that a lot of them seriously dont know how important it is, which can honestly be chalked up to both personal ignorance and lack of education along with the media never acting like its a big deal fucking ever.


In all honesty, what you're saying is mostly gibberish. People are highly aware of the importance of their senators and representatives. Massive campaign money goes into these seats, and a lot of on the ground campaigning.

If you don't think people are hyper-aware of their seats, you've lost your mind, or are too tuned into national media. See, that's the thing, isn't it? Who you can vote for as a representative or senator is based upon where you're located. Very very seldom is the national media going to pick up stories about such seats. Likewise, seats like the one AOC won? Why should somebody in California or Texas or Oregon care about that seat? They can't vote on it.

So when I talk about the numbers as they appear right now regarding majorities and overall seats won/lost, that's all anyone cares about on the national level because it's something that nobody is unified on. People get all fired up over the President, because that's one thing everyone is voting on. Even though you can say "Well, you're voting on your electors, not the President" it amounts to the same thing. If I came in and talked about a specific representative or senator, the only people who are going to give a shit are those who live in the state and district that those people represent. Does that make sense?
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Surprise surprise. The Oompa Loompa is trying to toss out mail in ballots πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

What a piece of shit lol. Can’t wait for this clown to get his in federal prison
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The way the AP is reporting votes is all kinds of funky, and honestly, Trump is correct in calling them out on it. Like, there's 80% reporting on ballot measures in Oregon. But only 75% reporting on the presidential race? How is that even possible? They're the SAME BALLOTS.

Pretty much across the board this is a thing. Like, 99% reporting in Georgia for measures, yet Presidential frozen at 94% for hours? Why? Same ballots. WI, NC, and GA can all be called any time. The ballots have been counted, the AP is simply refusing to report. Likewise, while they're reporting on local races and measures in WA, CA, and Oregon, and vote totals are increasing, they've been frozen at 58%, 64%, and 75% respectively for hours in the Presidential bid.

While I don't like the Biden/Harris ticket, in some ways, it'd almost be best if they DID win. These bs "news" outlets have lived on the Trump Bump so long, they have no interest in reporting actual news anymore. I think without Trump to keep their ratings up, they all fail.

Edit: I also need an actual answer on how the AP has 0% votes reported in Hawaii, but already has it locked in for Biden. What happened that I missed that the people in Hawaii don't get to vote their will?

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In all honesty, what you're saying is mostly gibberish. People are highly aware of the importance of their senators and representatives. Massive campaign money goes into these seats, and a lot of on the ground campaigning.

If you don't think people are hyper-aware of their seats, you've lost your mind, or are too tuned into national media. See, that's the thing, isn't it? Who you can vote for as a representative or senator is based upon where you're located. Very very seldom is the national media going to pick up stories about such seats. Likewise, seats like the one AOC won? Why should somebody in California or Texas or Oregon care about that seat? They can't vote on it.

So when I talk about the numbers as they appear right now regarding majorities and overall seats won/lost, that's all anyone cares about on the national level because it's something that nobody is unified on. People get all fired up over the President, because that's one thing everyone is voting on. Even though you can say "Well, you're voting on your electors, not the President" it amounts to the same thing. If I came in and talked about a specific representative or senator, the only people who are going to give a shit are those who live in the state and district that those people represent. Does that make sense?


of course it makes sense, you aren't saying anything that i haven't already known for years, but to say im speaking gibberish just because im generalizing it is just incorrect. The fact is quite often when seats are up the old fuck who was occupying it meets zero opposition and gets to sit right back down in that seat. With more than 59 years of service, Representative John Dingell, Jr., of Michigan, holds the record for longest consecutive service. To me, caring as a whole more leads to single states acting on that care, and you won't change my opinion so i wouldn't bother trying. 59 years is fucked, and so is anything even close to it.

also michigan is up to 80% done now and it seems obvious trump is winning it there, WIS NC GA all frozen at 94%, and michigan will likely freeze at around that percent aswell, its pretty obvious that trump has won people just dont want to give up hope yet, but WIS NC GA MI victories by trump = 270 total so he wins. and i also am confused about Hawaii

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I remember a time when my hairy asshole spoke for me too :rolleyes:
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of course it makes sense, you aren't saying anything that i haven't already known for years, but to say im speaking gibberish just because im generalizing it is just incorrect. The fact is quite often when seats are up the old fuck who was occupying it meets zero opposition and gets to sit right back down in that seat. With more than 59 years of service, Representative John Dingell, Jr., of Michigan, holds the record for longest consecutive service. To me, caring as a whole more leads to single states acting on that care, and you won't change my opinion so i wouldn't bother trying. 59 years is fucked, and so is anything even close to it.


There is a level of truth to what you're saying when it comes to name recognition, and people not wanting to run for certain seats. That's how AOC won her seat initially, in all honesty. The incumbent assumed they had a shoe in, and AOC actually campaigned, and got enough support to take away the seat. This happened all across the country in 2018, and is continuing today. In all honesty, the trend is upwards in interest in local elections. Simple "assumed" seats have been lost (and won, to be fair) in tight races in places where there had been no real opposition for decades.

As far as calling what you were saying "gibberish" it's because it is. It's not just that you're generalizing, it's that you seem to think that individual representative or senate seats would or even should come under national or global attention. At least with Senate seats, there's state-wide attention. For representatives, it's tightened down to the district. It's simply not possible to get much care from people who can't be involved over these hundreds of seats. And when you get down to governors, mayors, sheriffs, and all the other 7000+ seats up for election, it's very localized. Only local news, local advertising, and locally based conversation boards are going to address them. The fact that you aren't seeing them addressed on national and global stages doesn't mean they aren't. It merely means you're looking in the wrong place.

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also michigan is up to 80% done now and it seems obvious trump is winning it there, WIS NC GA all frozen at 94%, and michigan will likely freeze at around that percent aswell, its pretty obvious that trump has won people just dont want to give up hope yet, but WIS NC GA MI victories by trump = 270 total so he wins. and i also am confused about Hawaii


Maybe. I'm not comfortable calling it. A lot of states are locked in that're still well within the swing margin. This is probably the worst election I've seen when it comes to lock-ins. Also, every time updates come in, the popular vote margin narrows, with Trump catching up, not falling behind. So it's really REALLY interesting how so many of the "blue lock-ins" have frozen so early on.

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There is a level of truth to what you're saying when it comes to name recognition, and people not wanting to run for certain seats. That's how AOC won her seat initially, in all honesty. The incumbent assumed they had a shoe in, and AOC actually campaigned, and got enough support to take away the seat. This happened all across the country in 2018, and is continuing today. In all honesty, the trend is upwards in interest in local elections. Simple "assumed" seats have been lost (and won, to be fair) in tight races in places where there had been no real opposition for decades.

As far as calling what you were saying "gibberish" it's because it is. It's not just that you're generalizing, it's that you seem to think that individual representative or senate seats would or even should come under national or global attention. At least with Senate seats, there's state-wide attention. For representatives, it's tightened down to the district. It's simply not possible to get much care from people who can't be involved over these hundreds of seats. And when you get down to governors, mayors, sheriffs, and all the other 7000+ seats up for election, it's very localized. Only local news, local advertising, and locally based conversation boards are going to address them. The fact that you aren't seeing them addressed on national and global stages doesn't mean they aren't. It merely means you're looking in the wrong place.



Maybe. I'm not comfortable calling it. A lot of states are locked in that're still well within the swing margin. This is probably the worst election I've seen when it comes to lock-ins. Also, every time updates come in, the popular vote margin narrows, with Trump catching up, not falling behind. So it's really REALLY interesting how so many of the "blue lock-ins" have frozen so early on.


yep, i agree with everything you've said here, but at the same time i am firm in my beliefs that if people were as full of energy about senate/rep elections as they are in presidential elections that the country would have changed for the better by now. However, i do understand WHY it isnt that way. in 2010 the people really let obama down because they felt content with the fact they had the first black president, and a lot and i mean A LOT of people did not vote in 2010 and because of that the democrats lost the house when they really shouldn't have. you are right in everything you said though and i can't disagree, i just think the more energy and attention put into house/senate elections, the better. i will say though that since 2010 things have gotten better, i just want to see even more improvement.

and based on the last thing you just said, it really does just seem like the democrats dont want to admit defeat yet when its over, i could be wrong but i guess we will see, they can't wait forever though.

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God damn Biden at -200

This shit is wild
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