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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8638467/nfl-10-potential-quarterback-moves-new-york-jets

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Mark Sanchez has been, by many indicators, the worst full-time starting quarterback in the NFL this season. That sounds like a shock-value statement -- good for New York radio, garish in football reality -- but it's not. The numbers and tape are piled up.

I have defended Sanchez often -- he lacks weapons, creative play calling, a run game and experience -- but as his career sample size grows, it's just defending a QB based on historical standards, not based on the current NFL. While Sanchez has a career completion percentage (54.7) similar to Phil Simms (55.4), in the modern NFL, with every advantage systemically built to favor passers, the Jets' QB is well below average.

The culprit is a lack of accuracy, a trait that hasn't improved. Completion percentage should be considered a superficial stat, football's version of the RBI, something dependent on too many other factors. And Sanchez has never achieved a mark that is in the top half of qualifying passers. This year, he's last in the NFL at 52.0 percent. But his quarterback accuracy percentage -- a ProFootballFocus stat which factors in drops, throwaways, spikes and batted passes, and quantifies pure throwing accuracy -- is a disaster. Sanchez has been last or second to last in the NFL in each of his four seasons. He was dead last as a rookie, and in 2009 and 2010, only Derek Anderson and Blaine Gabbert were lower, respectively. This year, he's again dead last.

The big issue is that this mitigates the perception that a lack of weapons is the problem. Even great surrounding talent matters little if you can't deliver the ball on or near frame consistently. Sanchez is accurate with passes this season (64.1 percent) at a lower rate than 11 QBs are completing them.

There are other problems: Sanchez completes passes of less than 10 yards at 55.8 percent -- no other NFL passer is below 60 percent. Against five or more rushers, he completes passes at just 48.7 percent according to ESPN Stats & Info, also an NFL-worst. Overall, he has the worst completion percentage through Week 10 since 2005. And what the Jets' decision-makers must understand is that this isn't new. A couple of playoff runs and some clutch performances viewed through the prism of his youth mask the reality that while Sanchez has struggled mightily in 2012, he's performed similarly in previous years. What he's had is a Jets defense that has been among the NFL's best in each season he's been in the league, starting with a brilliant defense during his rookie year.

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Mark Sanchez' passing accuracy -- or lack thereof -- is a major problem.
That defense has dipped slightly in 2012, and Sanchez has been completely exposed.

This doesn't mean the Jets should bench Sanchez now. It doesn't mean they should start Tim Tebow, who last year was as inaccurate as any passer since Akili Smith in 2000. What it does mean is that the Jets must go into the offseason willing to consider bringing in a QB who can legitimately upgrade their passing attack, or at least force Sanchez to reach a level he hasn't yet attained. And think about it: If you had a position where you could say, "This is the worst anyone is playing at this position in the NFL," you'd demand a change, or at least legit competition. Why not at the most important position? For a franchise that has, in a five-year period, brought in both Brett Favre and Tim Tebow, the idea would be one of the most salient options the team has considered.

Here are 10 QB moves for the Jets to consider.


Somewhat realistic
Pursue a trade for Matt Flynn

Consider how the Seattle Seahawks have viewed their QB scenario compared to the Jets. They signed Matt Flynn at a reasonable figure for a projected starter (three years, $26 million with $10 million guaranteed), but they weren't satisfied to simply hand him the job and drafted Russell Wilson to challenge him. Wilson beat Flynn out, and the team has made strides. The Jets, on the other hand, traded for Tebow while at the same time saying he wouldn't compete for the starting job, handed Sanchez the ball, and have seen the team struggle as they balanced the idea that Sanchez would grow with the perpetual "wrinkle" of Tebow packages. The Seahawks have their man and will be willing to listen to offers for Flynn, who might have a high ceiling if given a shot. Would a package built around a third-rounder get a deal done? It's possible.

Draft Matt Barkley or Geno Smith

According to Football Outsiders projections, the Jets now have a likelier chance to be drafting in the top three than making the playoffs. They likely won't need a top-three pick to target either Barkley or Smith, given the lack of need at QB leaguewide based upon the stellar seasons of the rookie QB class, and due to growth in second-year starters such as Gabbert and Christian Ponder. Both Barkley and Smith also have something that Sanchez didn't have coming out of USC, which is considerable starting experience, making each an easier projection for evaluators. Would a rookie be an upgrade over Sanchez? There is no guarantee, but again, would a rookie be certain to perform worse than Sanchez has in 2012? Absolutely not. Only Brandon Weeden from the 2012 class has performed as poorly among rookies, and he has similarly been a victim of his receivers.

Target Jason Campbell in free agency

Jets fans, I can see you gag at this point. Want to make it worse? Look at Campbell's numbers next to Sanchez's. The Bears backup, signed to a one-year deal in the offseason, certainly lacks a high ceiling at this stage, and that's an understatement. But Campbell has three NFL seasons as a starter that are clearly better than even the best NFL season Sanchez has put together in terms of overall performance, accuracy in particular. Now a journeyman, Campbell's career passer rating of 82.6 exceeds Sanchez's 72.8 mark. He does not represent a fix, but he does represent legitimate competition at QB. He might jump at a fair chance to earn a starting job, even on a one-year deal.

Pursue a trade for Kirk Cousins

When the Redskins drafted Cousins, many evaluators considered it a play for future draft picks given the massive draft value the team dealt to take Robert Griffin III. Cousins would qualify as a leap of faith but could also be acquired without relinquishing a first-rounder. Again, Cousins doesn't represent a sure upgrade, but he does qualify as a player who could challenge Sanchez in 2013 and could ideally take over the starter's role in 2014 if Sanchez is gone at that point.

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Matt Moore, who has played fairly well as a starter, could compete for the Jets' top QB position.
Target Matt Moore in free agency

Moore also lacks a ceiling (that's not the same as "limitless!") but has a career passer rating of 80.5 and has performed competently when asked to start in both Carolina and Miami, neither a situation where he was flush with weapons. While he isn't a great long-term solution, he is a legitimate competitor for the starting job, perhaps as a stopgap while the team develops a lower-round QB draft pick.

Break the glass, this is an emergency
Draft Tyler Wilson, E.J. Manuel or Landry Jones

All three are currently considered second-tier options in the 2013 NFL draft. That valuation could change; both Wilson and Manuel are considered high-ceiling players capable of putting on a show during postseason all-star events and throughout the draft process. Each will also have multiple years of starting experience and should come in with the intent to challenge for a starting job in the right situation. What Sanchez has done in 2012 certainly qualifies as a situation ripe for a challenge.

Pursue a trade of Sanchez to Arizona for Kevin Kolb

This is a borderline nuclear option for both franchises, and I certainly wouldn't call it realistic. But given how the deals match up, it could also be considered a perfect turn of the page on a player for two unsatisfied franchises. Sanchez could use the change of scenery and might thrive with pass-catchers who can haul in some of his less-than-precise passes; Kolb still has the potential to thrive if a team can manage to keep him upright.

Pursue a trade for T.J. Yates

The Texans just handed Matt Schaub a five-year, $66.15 million deal, so Yates is effectively locked into a backup role. He would be no lock to beat out Sanchez, but again would qualify as legit competition for the starting job. Yates has already been to the playoffs as a starter and performed reasonably well in limited time, all of it without the services of Andre Johnson.

Target Michael Vick in free agency
Defcon 7! Did I mention the Jets have brought in both Favre and Tebow over a five-year period? Vick is as likely to start in Philly next season as Ron Jaworski, and bringing him to New York on a flier would be the most Mike Tannenbaum move ever. (Which is saying something.)

Pursue a trade for Kyle Orton

The Cowboys have professed a desire to seal Tony Romo up for the long haul, making Orton with his current deal among the best low-cost backup QB values in the league. But Dallas might be willing to listen, particularly since the Cowboys will likely take a draft flier on a developmental QB in the 2013 draft.

Watching the Jets' offense in 2012 has been like walking blindfolded across a floor strewn with Legos. I've managed to watch every single play. Not a single one of the situations laid out above represents a guaranteed upgrade over Sanchez for the Jets in 2013. But every single one represents the chance to provide legitimate competition to a QB who has regressed to a league-worst level in 2012. Every option should be on the table.
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Nov 16 2012 12:06pm
After watching film of both teams, Scouts Inc. breaks down key elements of the Week 11 Colts-Patriots matchup.


• Keep Brady on the sideline: The Patriots are explosive offensively, so Indianapolis would be smart to limit New England's possessions with an effective running attack. New England has been inconsistent defending the run. The Colts have improved rushing the football, gaining 138 yards against the Jaguars last week and averaging 109.4 yards for the season. Look for Colts offensive coordinator/interim head coach Bruce Arians to try to keep Tom Brady on the sideline with interior runs by Donald Brown and Vick Ballard, and by stretching the edges with jet sweeps or a reverse with rookie wide receiver T.Y. Hilton.

• Give Luck time in pocket: The Colts have been inconsistent protecting rookie quarterback Andrew Luck, who was under pressure often against a poor Jacksonville front last week. With Indianapolis banged up along the offensive line, expect an aggressive game plan from Patriots coach Bill Belichick. Look for Arians to tighten the Colts' line splits and use more maximum protections and a quick passing game to keep Luck upright.

• Continue to be balanced offensively: New England has been more balanced on offense in 2012 (146.0 yards rushing, 284.3 yards passing) than in recent years. The Colts have been inconsistent on defense in both phases. Look for Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels to use a downhill power running game between the tackles with Stevan Ridley while attacking Indianapolis at all levels in the passing game.

• Home QB: Brady is coming off another solid game in Week 10, completing 61 percent of his passes and throwing for two touchdowns. He is an average athlete and rarely creates outside the tackle box. He can drive the football when he needs to but has great touch in the short passing game. He has outstanding vision and ability to find his second and third options. He is successful with great timing and accuracy with the ability to check off, putting his offense into the right play. Brady has excellent size and arm strength and brings great leadership to the Patriots.

• Away QB: Luck completed 69 percent of his passes in Week 10 and ran for two touchdowns. Luck has an excellent combination of size, strength and athleticism for the position. He has great vision and instincts for a rookie. He shows poise beyond his years and can make all the throws in crucial situations. Luck is an outstanding young quarterback who has showed mental toughness and leadership.

• Key positional battle -- Patriots' receivers vs. Colts' secondary: The Patriots field talented perimeter targets in Brandon Lloyd and Wes Welker along with arguably the best tight end duo in the league, with Aaron Hernandez expected back and Rob Gronkowski. The Colts have an athletic secondary that has seen only one explosive passing game (Green Bay) previously this season. They did a nice job defending Aaron Rodgers, sacking him five times, and will need a similar effort up front to keep Brady from having a big day. Look for this positional battle to determine the outcome.

• Featured player: Gronkowski creates matchup problems for any defensive coordinator with his length, athleticism and strength. He had only three receptions in Week 10 but will likely be more involved versus the Colts. He is tough to get on the ground and often turns short passes into big gainers. Gronkowski had a record-setting season for tight ends in 2011. His numbers are down in 2012, but he continues to be the Patriots' most productive touchdown maker.

• Film room nuggets: Versatile Patriots running back Danny Woodhead is a short, compact athlete who is a challenge to corral. His quickness, instincts and stature enable him to get lost in the shuffle in the running game. ... Rookie wide receiver Hilton has shown great speed and burst as a route runner, after the catch and when he touches the ball in the running game. He is a bit of a glider and appears to surprise defenders as he eats up their cushion downfield.


Prediction
New England 30
Indianapolis 24
The Colts are on a roll, winning five of their past six, and the Patriots have been exposed defensively in recent weeks. Luck is playing at a high level, but Brady and Belichick won't let this one get away at home.
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Quote (rita313 @ Nov 16 2012 11:05am)
Mark Sanchez has been, by many indicators, the worst full-time starting quarterback in the NFL this season. That sounds like a shock-value statement -- good for New York radio, garish in football reality -- but it's not. The numbers and tape are piled up.

I have defended Sanchez often -- he lacks weapons, creative play calling, a run game and experience -- but as his career sample size grows, it's just defending a QB based on historical standards, not based on the current NFL. While Sanchez has a career completion percentage (54.7) similar to Phil Simms (55.4), in the modern NFL, with every advantage systemically built to favor passers, the Jets' QB is well below average.

The culprit is a lack of accuracy, a trait that hasn't improved. Completion percentage should be considered a superficial stat, football's version of the RBI, something dependent on too many other factors. And Sanchez has never achieved a mark that is in the top half of qualifying passers. This year, he's last in the NFL at 52.0 percent. But his quarterback accuracy percentage -- a ProFootballFocus stat which factors in drops, throwaways, spikes and batted passes, and quantifies pure throwing accuracy -- is a disaster. Sanchez has been last or second to last in the NFL in each of his four seasons. He was dead last as a rookie, and in 2009 and 2010, only Derek Anderson and Blaine Gabbert were lower, respectively. This year, he's again dead last.

The big issue is that this mitigates the perception that a lack of weapons is the problem. Even great surrounding talent matters little if you can't deliver the ball on or near frame consistently. Sanchez is accurate with passes this season (64.1 percent) at a lower rate than 11 QBs are completing them.

There are other problems: Sanchez completes passes of less than 10 yards at 55.8 percent -- no other NFL passer is below 60 percent. Against five or more rushers, he completes passes at just 48.7 percent according to ESPN Stats & Info, also an NFL-worst. Overall, he has the worst completion percentage through Week 10 since 2005. And what the Jets' decision-makers must understand is that this isn't new. A couple of playoff runs and some clutch performances viewed through the prism of his youth mask the reality that while Sanchez has struggled mightily in 2012, he's performed similarly in previous years. What he's had is a Jets defense that has been among the NFL's best in each season he's been in the league, starting with a brilliant defense during his rookie year.

[+] Enlarge
Nick Laham/Getty Images
Mark Sanchez' passing accuracy -- or lack thereof -- is a major problem.
That defense has dipped slightly in 2012, and Sanchez has been completely exposed.

This doesn't mean the Jets should bench Sanchez now. It doesn't mean they should start Tim Tebow, who last year was as inaccurate as any passer since Akili Smith in 2000. What it does mean is that the Jets must go into the offseason willing to consider bringing in a QB who can legitimately upgrade their passing attack, or at least force Sanchez to reach a level he hasn't yet attained. And think about it: If you had a position where you could say, "This is the worst anyone is playing at this position in the NFL," you'd demand a change, or at least legit competition. Why not at the most important position? For a franchise that has, in a five-year period, brought in both Brett Favre and Tim Tebow, the idea would be one of the most salient options the team has considered.

Here are 10 QB moves for the Jets to consider.


Somewhat realistic
Pursue a trade for Matt Flynn

Consider how the Seattle Seahawks have viewed their QB scenario compared to the Jets. They signed Matt Flynn at a reasonable figure for a projected starter (three years, $26 million with $10 million guaranteed), but they weren't satisfied to simply hand him the job and drafted Russell Wilson to challenge him. Wilson beat Flynn out, and the team has made strides. The Jets, on the other hand, traded for Tebow while at the same time saying he wouldn't compete for the starting job, handed Sanchez the ball, and have seen the team struggle as they balanced the idea that Sanchez would grow with the perpetual "wrinkle" of Tebow packages. The Seahawks have their man and will be willing to listen to offers for Flynn, who might have a high ceiling if given a shot. Would a package built around a third-rounder get a deal done? It's possible.

Draft Matt Barkley or Geno Smith

According to Football Outsiders projections, the Jets now have a likelier chance to be drafting in the top three than making the playoffs. They likely won't need a top-three pick to target either Barkley or Smith, given the lack of need at QB leaguewide based upon the stellar seasons of the rookie QB class, and due to growth in second-year starters such as Gabbert and Christian Ponder. Both Barkley and Smith also have something that Sanchez didn't have coming out of USC, which is considerable starting experience, making each an easier projection for evaluators. Would a rookie be an upgrade over Sanchez? There is no guarantee, but again, would a rookie be certain to perform worse than Sanchez has in 2012? Absolutely not. Only Brandon Weeden from the 2012 class has performed as poorly among rookies, and he has similarly been a victim of his receivers.

Target Jason Campbell in free agency

Jets fans, I can see you gag at this point. Want to make it worse? Look at Campbell's numbers next to Sanchez's. The Bears backup, signed to a one-year deal in the offseason, certainly lacks a high ceiling at this stage, and that's an understatement. But Campbell has three NFL seasons as a starter that are clearly better than even the best NFL season Sanchez has put together in terms of overall performance, accuracy in particular. Now a journeyman, Campbell's career passer rating of 82.6 exceeds Sanchez's 72.8 mark. He does not represent a fix, but he does represent legitimate competition at QB. He might jump at a fair chance to earn a starting job, even on a one-year deal.

Pursue a trade for Kirk Cousins

When the Redskins drafted Cousins, many evaluators considered it a play for future draft picks given the massive draft value the team dealt to take Robert Griffin III. Cousins would qualify as a leap of faith but could also be acquired without relinquishing a first-rounder. Again, Cousins doesn't represent a sure upgrade, but he does qualify as a player who could challenge Sanchez in 2013 and could ideally take over the starter's role in 2014 if Sanchez is gone at that point.

[+] Enlarge
AP Photo/Gregory Bull
Matt Moore, who has played fairly well as a starter, could compete for the Jets' top QB position.
Target Matt Moore in free agency

Moore also lacks a ceiling (that's not the same as "limitless!") but has a career passer rating of 80.5 and has performed competently when asked to start in both Carolina and Miami, neither a situation where he was flush with weapons. While he isn't a great long-term solution, he is a legitimate competitor for the starting job, perhaps as a stopgap while the team develops a lower-round QB draft pick.

Break the glass, this is an emergency
Draft Tyler Wilson, E.J. Manuel or Landry Jones

All three are currently considered second-tier options in the 2013 NFL draft. That valuation could change; both Wilson and Manuel are considered high-ceiling players capable of putting on a show during postseason all-star events and throughout the draft process. Each will also have multiple years of starting experience and should come in with the intent to challenge for a starting job in the right situation. What Sanchez has done in 2012 certainly qualifies as a situation ripe for a challenge.

Pursue a trade of Sanchez to Arizona for Kevin Kolb

This is a borderline nuclear option for both franchises, and I certainly wouldn't call it realistic. But given how the deals match up, it could also be considered a perfect turn of the page on a player for two unsatisfied franchises. Sanchez could use the change of scenery and might thrive with pass-catchers who can haul in some of his less-than-precise passes; Kolb still has the potential to thrive if a team can manage to keep him upright.

Pursue a trade for T.J. Yates

The Texans just handed Matt Schaub a five-year, $66.15 million deal, so Yates is effectively locked into a backup role. He would be no lock to beat out Sanchez, but again would qualify as legit competition for the starting job. Yates has already been to the playoffs as a starter and performed reasonably well in limited time, all of it without the services of Andre Johnson.

Target Michael Vick in free agency
Defcon 7! Did I mention the Jets have brought in both Favre and Tebow over a five-year period? Vick is as likely to start in Philly next season as Ron Jaworski, and bringing him to New York on a flier would be the most Mike Tannenbaum move ever. (Which is saying something.)

Pursue a trade for Kyle Orton

The Cowboys have professed a desire to seal Tony Romo up for the long haul, making Orton with his current deal among the best low-cost backup QB values in the league. But Dallas might be willing to listen, particularly since the Cowboys will likely take a draft flier on a developmental QB in the 2013 draft.

Watching the Jets' offense in 2012 has been like walking blindfolded across a floor strewn with Legos. I've managed to watch every single play. Not a single one of the situations laid out above represents a guaranteed upgrade over Sanchez for the Jets in 2013. But every single one represents the chance to provide legitimate competition to a QB who has regressed to a league-worst level in 2012. Every option should be on the table.


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The LSU Tigers are making a big push for Ricky Seals-Jones (Sealy, Texas/Sealy). No surprise there -- Seals-Jones is the top wide receiver prospect in the Class of 2013, and has offers from 10 schools, including five in Texas alone. David Helman of GeauxTigerNation says that an improved passing attack has helped the Tigers get commitments from other wideouts, and it could lure Seals-Jones before all is said and done too. Still, Helman says it will be hard to convince the receiver to leave his home state:

- Vince Verhei


David Helman
Why Texas A&M is the favorite
"It's undeniably good for LSU that Zach Mettenberger has proven the Tigers' ability to pass the ball the past two weeks. Big-time receivers are much more likely to feel comfortable with LSU if they know they're going to get the ball -- current commits like Chuck Baker (Slidell, La./Salmen), John Diarse (Monroe, La./Neville) and Quantavius Leslie (Hogansville, Ga./Hinds Community College) have to feel good about that. But Seals-Jones, the No. 1 athlete in this class, is a tough sell in that he lives right outside College Station, Texas, also known as the home of Johnny Manziel. I think the combination of the Aggies' explosive offense with the home state appeal keeps Seals-Jones in Texas, which would be a boon for Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin. Of course, crazier things have happened and you have to assume LSU is going to keep the pressure on the 6-foot-5 prospect to come to Baton Rouge and be an immediate presence."
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I'll say, "You haven't met me, I am the only son"
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/%5F/id/8656287/2013-nfl-draft-anthony-barr-ucla-new-big-board-additions


Want to see Kipers latest big board, not sure if thats the link

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