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Jul 10 2014 11:00am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 10 2014 10:54am)
The problem is that dlcs don't fix any of the core issues. You can't fix your engine with an update lol. 100% of the time DLC weapons and maps are banned from competitive play because the maps are garbage and the guns are broken. DLC content is rushed out as well, everyone is just trying to make a little extra coin off a bad game. I understand it's getting harder and harder to make these games perfect, no one said it was easy. I just don't think it's too much to ask for that they attempt to at least perfect one aspect of their game. The campaigns on most games have been horrible lately (with the exception of Bungie), Zombies is fun for a day or two but with the limited map, upgrades, etc... that only come with spending more money it's fucking pointless and don't get me started on multiplayer lol.


Word I didn't play any campaigns on any of the halos OR cod. Im all about that comcompetitive nature of the online play
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Jul 10 2014 11:05am
Quote (OmegaRed07 @ Jul 10 2014 09:57am)
No ur missing the point by automaticaly assuming that if theyhad put out a campaign the game would of been shit. U just assume it would of ruined the game and made it worse. Who's to say it wouldn't of been gg as fuck and worth the play through? My issue is the fact that they didn't even bother to put up the effort of even a shit campaign. Pure laziness


I don't think I ever said the game would be shit if they put in a campaign, I just said it's not needed and it generally does seem to subtract from the overall quality of FPS games lately. What you define as laziness is in fact the exact opposite, these are people who have worked in a competitive gaming market and they are catering to that market, not to the casuals (or they were trying to at least). The game hasn't done as well as I would have liked and the competitive aspect is fairly dead, which means the game will most likely fail. They took a chance though and I respect them for that, it's not easy trying to take on a giant like Cod but that's what they were attempting to do. It's pointless to put in a shitty campaign or spend half your resources putting in a good campaign if you know that's not where the market for extensive gameplay is.

I'm always happy to see a dev focus more on the multiplayer aspect because that's what I care about. Go play a RPG or something if you care about the Campaign aspect, it's that easy lol. The only successful FPS I can think of with an actually epic campaign was the Halo Series and that died because they fucked over their competitive market and focused far too much time on other aspects of the game which people didn't care as adamantly about anymore.
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Jul 10 2014 11:13am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 10 2014 12:05pm)
I don't think I ever said the game would be shit if they put in a campaign, I just said it's not needed and it generally does seem to subtract from the overall quality of FPS games lately. What you define as laziness is in fact the exact opposite, these are people who have worked in a competitive gaming market and they are catering to that market, not to the casuals (or they were trying to at least). The game hasn't done as well as I would have liked and the competitive aspect is fairly dead, which means the game will most likely fail. They took a chance though and I respect them for that, it's not easy trying to take on a giant like Cod but that's what they were attempting to do. It's pointless to put in a shitty campaign or spend half your resources putting in a good campaign if you know that's not where the market for extensive gameplay is.

I'm always happy to see a dev focus more on the multiplayer aspect because that's what I care about. Go play a RPG or something if you care about the Campaign aspect, it's that easy lol. The only successful FPS I can think of with an actually epic campaign was the Halo Series and that died because they fucked over their competitive market and focused far too much time on other aspects of the game which people didn't care as adamantly about anymore.


U really need to play the gears of war games or any rainbow6/splinter cell game.
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Jul 10 2014 11:14am
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U really need to play the gears of war games or any rainbow6/splinter cell game.


None of those games have a competitive market... it's why they're not successful anymore lol. I've played the gears campaign, probably the only time I've liked a campaign more than the multiplayer, that's not a good thing lol. Splinter Cell games were fun for a minute but got old fast, I only played one of the old Rainbow games, I remember not liking it very much.
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Jul 10 2014 11:17am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 10 2014 11:14am)
None of those games have a competitive market... it's why they're not successful anymore lol. I've played the gears campaign, probably the only time I've liked a campaign more than the multiplayer, that's not a good thing lol. Splinter Cell games were fun for a minute but got old fast, I only played one of the old Rainbow games, I remember not liking it very much.


What the fuck are you talking about? Gears always had competition. Up until Judgement they were all on the MLG tour and shit. 100000 people played gears three daily compared to the fact that they are trying to give this game away for free and cant get people to play it.
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Jul 10 2014 11:18am
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What the fuck are you talking about? Gears always had competition. Up until Judgement they were all on the MLG tour and shit. 100000 people played gears three daily compared to the fact that they are trying to give this game away for free and cant get people to play it.


Currently have a competitive market... would that have been better? It was originally Halo > Cod > Gears and then Gears died, now it's pretty much just Cod lol.


I'm not trying to be a dick or trash any games. I'm just stating why they die. I like to play where the most competition is. Cod is fucking stupid because they keep releasing shit games but they have the best competitive market, so dumb ass people like myself will continue to play and frustrate ourselves because it's better than slamming bad kids or playing a dead game.

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Jul 10 2014 11:39am
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Currently have a competitive market... would that have been better? It was originally Halo > Cod > Gears and then Gears died, now it's pretty much just Cod lol.


I'm not trying to be a dick or trash any games. I'm just stating why they die. I like to play where the most competition is. Cod is fucking stupid because they keep releasing shit games but they have the best competitive market, so dumb ass people like myself will continue to play and frustrate ourselves because it's better than slamming bad kids or playing a dead game.


Gears only just recently died when they changed up the game with judgement. Up until then gears was a top competitive game market. And from what I've heard they'll be taking the next one back to its roots so imo gears won't be down for long.
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Jul 10 2014 11:43am
Quote (OmegaRed07 @ Jul 10 2014 11:39am)
Gears only just recently died when they changed up the game with judgement. Up until then gears was a top competitive game market. And from what I've heard they'll be taking the next one back to its roots so imo gears won't be down for long.


Yup, I heard a cross between Gears 2 and 3. Will be sick.

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Currently have a competitive market... would that have been better? It was originally Halo > Cod > Gears and then Gears died, now it's pretty much just Cod lol.


I'm not trying to be a dick or trash any games. I'm just stating why they die. I like to play where the most competition is. Cod is fucking stupid because they keep releasing shit games but they have the best competitive market, so dumb ass people like myself will continue to play and frustrate ourselves because it's better than slamming bad kids or playing a dead game.


.... This game is pretty close to dead already..... Depressing as that is.
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Jul 10 2014 11:45am
Quote (Gangbang @ Jul 10 2014 12:43pm)
Yup, I heard a cross between Gears 2 and 3. Will be sick.



.... This game is pretty close to dead already..... Depressing as that is.


That's pretty much what I read and saw too. Hopefully they do it right and gears returns as a top game. A lot of ppl still play 3 actually.
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Jul 10 2014 11:46am
Quote (OmegaRed07 @ Jul 10 2014 11:45am)
That's pretty much what I read and saw too. Hopefully they do it right and gears returns as a top game. A lot of ppl still play 3 actually.


Yea a few thousand every day and close to 15k on the weekends. Its not terrible. Judgement is sitting at like 2k on the weekends and a few hundred during the week.
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