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Mar 18 2014 06:39pm
Quote (Benny21 @ Mar 18 2014 05:21pm)
RG3 was successful but got hurt because he doesn't know when to slide or run out of bounds. Manziel does know how to do that.

I think it depends entirely on the QB's commitment to winning and improving and getting better, and all the things I've seen about Manziel seem to imply that. I have 100% faith that if we build a strong team via the remainder of free agency, like we've already begun to do, drafting Manziel will be the best thing for this organization. Manziel is the only player in this draft that has the potential to get the Raiders to 10 wins next year.


Any time you have a dual threat QB you run an increased risk of injury. RG3 was successful in his rookie year but then got hurt, which is a concern of all "dual threat" type QBs as they have a higher chance of injury due to their rushing style.

I don't think there is a single player in this draft that can get us to 10 wins. I don't think we'd get to 10 wins if we got the first five picks of this draft.

Quote (Benny21 @ Mar 18 2014 05:30pm)
Another great pick up. I really wonder which direction we'll be going in with pick #5.

It looks as if we're not taking an OT, nor a DE, so Matthews/Robinson/Clowney are probably off the table.


It could be a situation where we're trying to build a team and then draft a QB.


We will be taking a QB or trading down. There is no other logical play. We got a WR, we filled out our OL, we got a CB, we rebuilt our DL and our LB core is solid. There are no elite RBs, and no safeties worth taking at 5.

Quote (Intact @ Mar 18 2014 05:31pm)
yea, i know hes never won ''the big one'' but hes had a decent career stat wise. I looked it up the other day and it was something like 25,000 yards with 130 TD's and 80 INT. Besides last year hes always had a lot more TD's than picks. Last year was just a bad year for the whole organization, some people had them as their SB pick. I would not mind him being our starter. Maybe he just needs a new team and a fresh start to re-amp his career, or he might just keep going down the shitter, only time will tell lol. Then again Mcgloin showed some pretty good flashes of skill last year and think he should deserve some more playing time, and there is even a lot of people who say Pryor deserves more time and really believe in the guy, we will see wont we. we just supposedly signed our new LT so lets see what happens with this one.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattschaub/2505982/careerstats ill just look it up again and post the link


Schaub has been a solid starter for his whole career, and was even a "good" QB for quite some time. He definitely has more in the tank, IMO.
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Mar 18 2014 06:40pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000335149/article/donald-penn-agrees-to-contract-with-oakland-raiders

They call this, along with our other FA signings a ''solid'' move. I sure hope so with this and all of our others. They are all getting old but hopefully still have a couple years left in the tank while we are trying to get this thing going the right direction.

Donald Penn or Menelik Watson?, Mike Briesel, Wiz, Kevin Boothe, Austin Howard is our starting OL?? Have Bergstrom, Watson or Penn, Barnes (false start master), for depth? Is Andre Gurode still on the team? Hopefully our OL is better than last year, that will be huge and i really hope so!
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Mar 18 2014 06:41pm
Quote (Intact @ Mar 18 2014 05:40pm)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000335149/article/donald-penn-agrees-to-contract-with-oakland-raiders

They call this, along with our other FA signings a ''solid'' move. I sure hope so with this and all of our others. They are all getting old but hopefully still have a couple years left in the tank while we are trying to get this thing going the right direction.

Donald Penn or Menelik Watson?, Mike Briesel, Wiz, Kevin Boothe, Austin Howard is our starting OL?? Have Bergstrom, Watson or Penn, Barnes (false start master), for depth? Is Andre Gurode still on the team? Hopefully our OL is better than last year, that will be huge and i really hope so!


We threw pretty much all of our money at it, it had better be improved from last year.
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Mar 18 2014 06:46pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Mar 18 2014 04:41pm)
We threw pretty much all of our money at it, it had better be improved from last year.


Yea i sure hope so, we signed 3 new OL. I hope this works out! Lets see if this guy passes his damn physical now! lol. i would hope they dont ever make a stupid mistake like that again, let alone the same year..

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Mar 18 2014 07:06pm
love it hope our def is 100x better n u'll see us winning mot our games.
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Mar 18 2014 07:07pm
I just really, really hope we don't draft Bridgewater or Carr at 5. I'll be so pissed if we take one of them there.
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Mar 18 2014 07:12pm
Quote (Benny21 @ Mar 18 2014 05:07pm)
I just really, really hope we don't draft Bridgewater or Carr at 5. I'll be so pissed if we take one of them there.


idk if i even want a QB and #5 period. all though i do think we need to upgrade, idk if i want to put the season in the hands of pryor and mcgloin again like last year. yes i do think they both have talent and could get better if given the opportunity i just dont know if i wana waste the time again doing it. i really would like to get a great play maker. we havent had a true ''threat'' on offense it seems like in forever. DMC was supposed to be that guy but we all know how he plays lol..

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Mar 19 2014 11:26am
As 4 threads currently point out, Vick has gone to the Jets. Our veteran QB options decrease and the likelihood of drafting a rookie at #5 increases.
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Mar 19 2014 01:19pm
nooo we gota sign vick so Pryor can succeed, hopefully he doesnt sign with jets and by friday we sign him. I really hope we dont draft Bridge or Many. Don't like either. Bartles idk. Seemed solid today but ehhhhhhhh. imo still got with Tackle or D line. we need a good rotation.
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Mar 19 2014 02:22pm
Quote (Benny21 @ Mar 18 2014 07:30pm)
Another great pick up. I really wonder which direction we'll be going in with pick #5.

It looks as if we're not taking an OT, nor a DE, so Matthews/Robinson/Clowney are probably off the table.


It could be a situation where we're trying to build a team and then draft a QB.


I still say if clowney drops to us we trade and let someone overpay for him like Arizona did for rg3. 2-3 first round picks would be nice
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