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Jan 17 2017 09:58pm
Quote (Terps @ Jan 17 2017 08:38pm)
I think Warger is gone. I have a feeling they're confident Lewis can replace him at RT, and Oz loves compensatory picks, so it all points to Wagner leaving in FA. Wagner was pretty high on PFF's OT rankings, iirc, so I'm sure GMs and talent evaluators have noticed his performance. He should be well-paid by someone--RTs are becoming increasingly important in today's NFL where teams line their #1 edge against the RT to create the biggest mismatch.

And I don't think Zuttah goes anywhere tbh. Supposedly he was playing the season injured, so maybe he's not nearly as bad as he seemed. However, more importantly, there is only one UFA Center who would be an upgrade over Zuttah (GB's JC Tretter), and the likelihood of us beating out every other Center-needy team for the only UFA Center from a team known for keeping their own seems unlikely. In addition, there are no obvious Centers in this coming draft who can definitely start from day 1 (maybe Pocic). Realistically, the best they'll do is draft a developmental Center to hopefully replace Zuttah next year.

Webb is slow, injury prone, and getting old. I'm not doubting that he could be here another season as a stop-gap, but he'll need to take a paycut or be cut/re-signed for it to happen (his cap hit is 7.5 mil for next season with 5.5 mil to save if he's cut, so something will happen there). Regardless, we need a FS of the future, and this draft is actually top-heavy with safety talent between Malik Hooker and Jamal Adams (probably going too high for us to draft though, lol)

Jimmy may not be the best at his position, but his presence on the field is amplified by his replacement(s). Shareece Wright can't cover anyone in the red zone (good at using the sideline as a defender and tackling), but he's an OK depth corner. Powers is just awful (and he's a slot corner, so he's a backup to Young now) and should have been cut in preseason in favor of Sheldon Price. We just have no corner depth, as usual.


Ravens need to quit franchise tagging their kicker :rofl:
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Jan 17 2017 10:10pm
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Ravens need to quit franchise tagging their kicker :rofl:

We signed him through 2019 before the season began last year... and he was the best kicker in the league... so I'm really not sure where you're going with this.
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Jan 17 2017 10:47pm
Quote (NEcheaters @ Jan 17 2017 11:58pm)
Ravens need to quit franchise tagging their kicker :rofl:


sounds like a thing the bengals should do with nugent
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Jan 17 2017 11:00pm
Quote (Terps @ Jan 18 2017 04:10am)
We signed him through 2019 before the season began last year... and he was the best kicker in the league... so I'm really not sure where you're going with this.


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Jan 17 2017 11:03pm
Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Jan 18 2017 12:00am)
poor man's mason crosby

Mason Crosby scuffled the past couple seasons, but he's certainly back to form if this year is any indication. Still don't think he's as good as Tucker, Gostkowski, or Bailey, however, if you take the past few years in total.

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Jan 17 2017 11:04pm
Quote (Terps @ Jan 17 2017 07:38pm)
I think Warger is gone. I have a feeling they're confident Lewis can replace him at RT, and Oz loves compensatory picks, so it all points to Wagner leaving in FA. Wagner was pretty high on PFF's OT rankings, iirc, so I'm sure GMs and talent evaluators have noticed his performance. He should be well-paid by someone--RTs are becoming increasingly important in today's NFL where teams line their #1 edge against the RT to create the biggest mismatch.

And I don't think Zuttah goes anywhere tbh. Supposedly he was playing the season injured, so maybe he's not nearly as bad as he seemed. However, more importantly, there is only one UFA Center who would be an upgrade over Zuttah (GB's JC Tretter), and the likelihood of us beating out every other Center-needy team for the only UFA Center from a team known for keeping their own seems unlikely. In addition, there are no obvious Centers in this coming draft who can definitely start from day 1 (maybe Pocic). Realistically, the best they'll do is draft a developmental Center to hopefully replace Zuttah next year.

Webb is slow, injury prone, and getting old. I'm not doubting that he could be here another season as a stop-gap, but he'll need to take a paycut or be cut/re-signed for it to happen (his cap hit is 7.5 mil for next season with 5.5 mil to save if he's cut, so something will happen there). Regardless, we need a FS of the future, and this draft is actually top-heavy with safety talent between Malik Hooker and Jamal Adams (probably going too high for us to draft though, lol)

Jimmy may not be the best at his position, but his presence on the field is amplified by his replacement(s). Shareece Wright can't cover anyone in the red zone (good at using the sideline as a defender and tackling), but he's an OK depth corner. Powers is just awful (and he's a slot corner, so he's a backup to Young now) and should have been cut in preseason in favor of Sheldon Price. We just have no corner depth, as usual.


I can't remember who said it, but I read somewhere that this is suppose to be one of the deepest CB drafts in a long time.
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Jan 17 2017 11:07pm
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I can't remember who said it, but I read somewhere that this is suppose to be one of the deepest CB drafts in a long time.

I hope that's true lol. Safety is looking deep, at least in the top and mid-range. Would love it if we could come away with a revamped secondary. This team is helpless without Jimmy Smith, and he seems to be injured a few games every year, so... gotta get some depth at the very least.
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Mason Crosby scuffled the past couple seasons, but he's certainly back to form if this year is any indication. Still don't think he's as good as Tucker, Gostkowski, or Bailey, however, if you take the past few years in total.


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Jan 17 2017 11:14pm
Bryant >>>>
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Jan 18 2017 08:58pm
Quote (Terps @ Jan 17 2017 05:38pm)
I think Tavon Young is the slot corner of the future; we nee an outside corner. That's why I want Adoree Jackson, plus he would completely solve our P/K returner problems, and he could even be used as an occasional weapon on offense (he played both CB and WR at USC, but he'd be better as a CB).

If we don't go with an outside corner, I really like Tim Williams from Alabama. He's a pure pass-rusher who could develop into an every-down LB. He could immediately play the Dumervil DPR role and hopefully develop into a 3-down LB (kind of like Suggs when he was young). Oz loves his Bama boys, so probably a decent chance that happens.

And although he's probably going too high for us, Mike Williams is really the only WR I want in this draft in the 1st. He's everything you could want in a receiver imo. Corey Davis might be good too, but I haven't watched enough of him to know.

/and I think your needs are all fine. We definitely need to upgrade the FS position from Webb, and we're going to need a LG most likely once Alex Lewis kicks out to RT to replace Ricky Wagner, who will probably leave in FA.


Interestingly, PFF has Tim Williams mocked to Baltimore in their current mock draft. I tend to take PFF with a grain of salt, but it is worth note.
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