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Jan 17 2017 07:00pm
So what is everybody wanting in the draft? I'd rank Ravens needs in order:

1.) WR
2.) Pass Rush
3.) Safety/Nickel Corner
4.) Interior O-Line
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Jan 17 2017 08:38pm
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So what is everybody wanting in the draft? I'd rank Ravens needs in order:

1.) WR
2.) Pass Rush
3.) Safety/Nickel Corner
4.) Interior O-Line

I think Tavon Young is the slot corner of the future; we nee an outside corner. That's why I want Adoree Jackson, plus he would completely solve our P/K returner problems, and he could even be used as an occasional weapon on offense (he played both CB and WR at USC, but he'd be better as a CB).

If we don't go with an outside corner, I really like Tim Williams from Alabama. He's a pure pass-rusher who could develop into an every-down LB. He could immediately play the Dumervil DPR role and hopefully develop into a 3-down LB (kind of like Suggs when he was young). Oz loves his Bama boys, so probably a decent chance that happens.

And although he's probably going too high for us, Mike Williams is really the only WR I want in this draft in the 1st. He's everything you could want in a receiver imo. Corey Davis might be good too, but I haven't watched enough of him to know.

/and I think your needs are all fine. We definitely need to upgrade the FS position from Webb, and we're going to need a LG most likely once Alex Lewis kicks out to RT to replace Ricky Wagner, who will probably leave in FA.

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I think Tavon Young is the slot corner of the future; we nee an outside corner. That's why I want Adoree Jackson, plus he would completely solve our P/K returner problems, and he could even be used as an occasional weapon on offense (he played both CB and WR at USC, but he'd be better as a CB).

If we don't go with an outside corner, I really like Tim Williams from Alabama. He's a pure pass-rusher who could develop into an every-down LB. He could immediately play the Dumervil DPR role and hopefully develop into a 3-down LB (kind of like Suggs when he was young). Oz loves his Bama boys, so probably a decent chance that happens.

And although he's probably going too high for us, Mike Williams is really the only WR I want in this draft in the 1st. He's everything you could want in a receiver imo. Corey Davis might be good too, but I haven't watched enough of him to know.

/and I think your needs are all fine. We definitely need to upgrade the FS position from Webb, and we're going to need a LG most likely once Alex Lewis kicks out to RT to replace Ricky Wagner, who will probably leave in FA.


Ravens need a WR and a RB.
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Jan 17 2017 08:44pm
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Ravens need a WR and a RB.

Thanks for the analysis
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Thanks for the analysis


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Jan 17 2017 08:51pm
Really think Wagner will be gone in FA? I figured he'd be too under the radar to get any better money on the market than we can give him here, as he knows the system. Regardless though, Zuttah is probably gone.

Webb actually played pretty well down the stretch. I don't know how long term of a solution he is, but I would say corner depth is more important than FS.

Jimmy isn't even close to the best player on this D, but it felt like the season was over once he started getting injured. We definitely don't have anyone that can replace him. <_< TY can at least fill in outside, but Powers isn't great in the slot.
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i wouldnt take that clemson wr i think hes overrated imo
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i wouldnt take that clemson wr i think hes overrated imo


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Really think Wagner will be gone in FA? I figured he'd be too under the radar to get any better money on the market than we can give him here, as he knows the system. Regardless though, Zuttah is probably gone.

Webb actually played pretty well down the stretch. I don't know how long term of a solution he is, but I would say corner depth is more important than FS.

Jimmy isn't even close to the best player on this D, but it felt like the season was over once he started getting injured. We definitely don't have anyone that can replace him. <_< TY can at least fill in outside, but Powers isn't great in the slot.

I think Warger is gone. I have a feeling they're confident Lewis can replace him at RT, and Oz loves compensatory picks, so it all points to Wagner leaving in FA. Wagner was pretty high on PFF's OT rankings, iirc, so I'm sure GMs and talent evaluators have noticed his performance. He should be well-paid by someone--RTs are becoming increasingly important in today's NFL where teams line their #1 edge against the RT to create the biggest mismatch.

And I don't think Zuttah goes anywhere tbh. Supposedly he was playing the season injured, so maybe he's not nearly as bad as he seemed. However, more importantly, there is only one UFA Center who would be an upgrade over Zuttah (GB's JC Tretter), and the likelihood of us beating out every other Center-needy team for the only UFA Center from a team known for keeping their own seems unlikely. In addition, there are no obvious Centers in this coming draft who can definitely start from day 1 (maybe Pocic). Realistically, the best they'll do is draft a developmental Center to hopefully replace Zuttah next year.

Webb is slow, injury prone, and getting old. I'm not doubting that he could be here another season as a stop-gap, but he'll need to take a paycut or be cut/re-signed for it to happen (his cap hit is 7.5 mil for next season with 5.5 mil to save if he's cut, so something will happen there). Regardless, we need a FS of the future, and this draft is actually top-heavy with safety talent between Malik Hooker and Jamal Adams (probably going too high for us to draft though, lol)

Jimmy may not be the best at his position, but his presence on the field is amplified by his replacement(s). Shareece Wright can't cover anyone in the red zone (good at using the sideline as a defender and tackling), but he's an OK depth corner. Powers is just awful (and he's a slot corner, so he's a backup to Young now) and should have been cut in preseason in favor of Sheldon Price. We just have no corner depth, as usual.
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