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Dec 27 2016 01:44pm
Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Dec 27 2016 02:31pm)
Ravens have been getting beat for years with that soft Pees' defense, i think it was the playoffs two years ago now where Brady and the pats were down 2 touchdowns and came back and won cuz of that shit lol, nothing new, i'm not sure though i don't follow the Ravens so could just be a lack of talent issue as opposed to a coaching problem


Definitely a bit of both. I hope we address a corner to play opposite of Jimmy in the draft.

Ramsey would've been nice
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Definitely a bit of both. I hope we address a corner to play opposite of Jimmy in the draft.

Ramsey would've been nice


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Quote (Mangina @ Dec 27 2016 12:19pm)
I wonder what rexy could do with our defense

There is zero chance Rex ever returns here after being completely ignored for the HC position that Harbs ended up receiving over him, plus his personality just clashes with Harbs' personality.

Pees actually isn't awful as a DC until the final 2 minutes -_- I don't think he's ever leaving the Ravens until he retires. Plus part of the problem vs Steelers was personnel, not having Jimmy or a pass rush (pass rush has been weak all year).

Quote (PittaGod @ Dec 27 2016 08:11am)
Had this dream last night that Kubiak got fired by Denver and he returned as our OC.
Well, there's always hope, right?

While Kub is literally a dream scenario, I think it's possible they interview Mike Shanahan, which I wouldn't even hate.

Honestly, if we're dreaming here, firing Harbaugh and bringing in Kyle Shanahan to run that stretch ZBS would be my dream :drool: I don't even hate Harbs, just love the Shanahan coaching tree (which includes Kubiak)
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Quote (Terps @ Dec 27 2016 02:50pm)
There is zero chance Rex ever returns here after being completely ignored for the HC position that Harbs ended up receiving over him, plus his personality just clashes with Harbs' personality.

Pees actually isn't awful as a DC until the final 2 minutes -_- I don't think he's ever leaving the Ravens until he retires. Plus part of the problem vs Steelers was personnel, not having Jimmy or a pass rush (pass rush has been weak all year).


While Kub is literally a dream scenario, I think it's possible they interview Mike Shanahan, which I wouldn't even hate.

Honestly, if we're dreaming here, firing Harbaugh and bringing in Kyle Shanahan to run that stretch ZBS would be my dream :drool: I don't even hate Harbs, just love the Shanahan coaching tree (which includes Kubiak)


I love harbs I'd be mad as fuck if they fired him. He leads out team very well, it's the oc and DC that gives us our problems.
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Quote (iiTzChunky @ Dec 28 2016 06:52am)
I love harbs I'd be mad as fuck if they fired him. He leads out team very well, it's the oc and DC that gives us our problems.

I will never disagree that Harbs is a good motivator. He's certainly a great coach in that regard: he genuinely cares about his players, and he gets them fired-up to play, as evidenced last season when guys were playing hard during meaningless games because they actually wanted to win.

However, Harbaugh is not an X's and O's kind of guy. He is not a designer of offensive or defensive schemes; his background is special teams. Because of this, it puts great onus on the HC/GM to hire great offensive and defensive coordinators--coordinators who are good, but not so good that they'll leave in a year (which is why we didn't look at Adam Gase or hire Kyle Shanahan in recent years). Because Harbaugh doesn't design either the offense or the defense, there isn't any consistency on either side of the ball. Like, if we had a HC with an offensive background like Mike McCarthy, Jason Garrett, or Gary Kubiak, then the offense would have some consistency as OCs come and go, but we don't have that. Instead, we've had 6 OCs in 6 years, and our offense has been wildly inconsistent during that span. Or, if we had a defensive-minded HC like Pete Carroll, then we would have consistency on defense despite losing DCs every other season. Instead, we have Pees, who coaches an OK defense, but nothing special, which is partially why he's a DC and not a HC.

So by having a HC with no background designing offenses or defenses, we'll never be truly excellent on one side of the ball unless we happen to hire a good OC or DC for a season, in which case they'll just leave in a year or two after being successful, the HC/GM will have to fine a new OC/DC to hire, they'll implement a new system, and they'll continue the inconsistency.

The Trestman hire looms large imo. That was a Harbaugh hire--that was who he wanted. If his next hire at OC fails, then I have to believe Steve and Ozzie are going to be looking to move on from Harbaugh. Ultimately, Harbaugh's inability to find a good OC falls on him.
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This post was edited by Mangina on Dec 28 2016 08:16pm
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Thats fuckin awesome lol
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In case anyone's interested amidst the lead up to his probable finale.

I will make a Ravens one this off-season if he retires!

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Dec 29 2016 04:50pm
Takes me back to see football on that old school astro turf
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Takes me back to see football on that old school astro turf


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