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Mar 6 2018 12:49am
Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ Mar 5 2018 08:49pm)
In Madden? Absolutely if I got a ton of draft picks because Madden is lulz and you can make shit work. IRL? You're talking about trading one of the best of all time in a period where the game is "Find a HoF QB or be mediocre at best."

Not to knock Wilson but the Seahawks are an example of what happens when you don't have an elite QB. You get somebody that can get you by with an elite unit on either side of the ball and some playmakers. Now that they actually have to pay those guys, they're struggling to compete. The same thing will happen with the Eagles if Wentz doesn't get to a Rodgers/Brady level. They can't afford to keep the defense together long term so they'll have to keep hitting on draft picks. Nobody other than BB has been able to do it long term in recent history.


Wilson is an Elite QB though.

Neither Brady nor Rogers would have won more football games with that offensive line lol
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Mar 6 2018 01:21am
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Wilson is an Elite QB though.

Neither Brady nor Rogers would have won more football games with that offensive line lol


Take a peek at how many sacks Rodgers has taken and get back to me. I'll wait.
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Take a peek at how many sacks Rodgers has taken and get back to me. I'll wait.


Less than Russel Wilson pretty much every year, cool?


Russel Wilson is an Elite QB in today's NFL.

Guys fucking dumb for saying anything else
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Mar 6 2018 05:13am
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Less than Russel Wilson pretty much every year, cool?


Russel Wilson is an Elite QB in today's NFL.

Guys fucking dumb for saying anything else



He’s not. He may be above average but you’re ridiculous if you think he’s anywhere near the level of Brady or Rodgers.
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Mar 6 2018 09:07am
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Less than Russel Wilson pretty much every year, cool?


Russel Wilson is an Elite QB in today's NFL.

Guys fucking dumb for saying anything else


Really? You must have just been looking at the last couple years, if you even bothered to look at all. Take the homer goggles off and let me know when you're prepared to be at least semi-rational.
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He’s not. He may be above average but you’re ridiculous if you think he’s anywhere near the level of Brady or Rodgers.



Never said he was as good as Rodgers? That wasn’t the debate, I never called him the best QB in the NFL I said he was elite. Because he is.

Russel Wilson has averaged 41.3 sacks per years since entering the league. Taking into account every 15-16 game season Rodgers has played he averages 38.8 a year. It’s not about being a homer it’s about the fact that Rodgers gets sacked less. Sacks do have a direct correlation to bad offensive line play but it also fails take into account QB hits taken or if the QB just held the ball too long.
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Mar 6 2018 11:01am
acuity needs to stop
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Never said he was as good as Rodgers? That wasn’t the debate, I never called him the best QB in the NFL I said he was elite. Because he is.

Russel Wilson has averaged 41.3 sacks per years since entering the league. Taking into account every 15-16 game season Rodgers has played he averages 38.8 a year. It’s not about being a homer it’s about the fact that Rodgers gets sacked less. Sacks do have a direct correlation to bad offensive line play but it also fails take into account QB hits taken or if the QB just held the ball too long.



If he’s not on Rodgers’ level, he’s not elite. It’s that simple. It’s either that you’re hanging on a buzzword and expanding its meaning to include Wilson in the elite category while putting Brady and Rodgers in a new tier or like everybody else you understand that Rodgers/Brady level is elite and there’s guys a tier below that.
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Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ Mar 6 2018 09:25am)
If he’s not on Rodgers’ level, he’s not elite. It’s that simple. It’s either that you’re hanging on a buzzword and expanding its meaning to include Wilson in the elite category while putting Brady and Rodgers in a new tier or like everybody else you understand that Rodgers/Brady level is elite and there’s guys a tier below that.


Did you miss the latest official ranking system that was released earlier this year? Just seems weird that someone as informed as you would miss anything, but I'll copy and paste it for you.

MostElitest
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Elite
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