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rip pack, im dropping jones in ff.
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Nov 7 2017 10:17pm
Quote (Hako @ Nov 7 2017 10:04pm)
It's such a catch 22.

Rodgers playing and carrying that team keeps peoples jobs because you're winning. Then he goes down and you get an actual look of the team that's been built (good, or bad), but now you have the Rodger's injury excuse which keeps jobs.

It's just one game, maybe things will get better. Still got half of a season to right the ship and get things figured out.


I thought the Rodgers-is-hurt crutch would be the reason people keep their jobs, but Aaron doesn't play defense and the T.O.P. differential was 90% the defense not being able to get off the field and less so about the offense continuing drives. McCarthy is too successful to be fired but the defense has never looked worse. Not one area looks promising and I've never seen them lose control of third downs like that. Unacceptable. I'd gladly have tank season if it means we can try and correct some of the obviously exposed wounds within the team.
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Nov 7 2017 10:18pm
Quote (Cheesehead @ Nov 7 2017 11:17pm)
I thought the Rodgers-is-hurt crutch would be the reason people keep their jobs, but Aaron doesn't play defense and the T.O.P. differential was 90% the defense not being able to get off the field and less so about the offense continuing drives. McCarthy is too successful to be fired but the defense has never looked worse. Not one area looks promising and I've never seen them lose control of third downs like that. Unacceptable. I'd gladly have tank season if it means we can try and correct some of the obviously exposed wounds within the team.


you get to play defense against chicago. will look like gods on sunday
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Quote (Cheesehead @ Nov 8 2017 12:17am)
I thought the Rodgers-is-hurt crutch would be the reason people keep their jobs, but Aaron doesn't play defense and the T.O.P. differential was 90% the defense not being able to get off the field and less so about the offense continuing drives. McCarthy is too successful to be fired but the defense has never looked worse. Not one area looks promising and I've never seen them lose control of third downs like that. Unacceptable. I'd gladly have tank season if it means we can try and correct some of the obviously exposed wounds within the team.


what happened to Dix?!

its just mind boggling :wacko:
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Nov 7 2017 10:22pm
Quote (Rust_Ninja @ Nov 7 2017 10:18pm)
you get to play defense against chicago. will look like gods on sunday


If 2 weeks to prep against a Lions offense who had almost 500 yards and were unable to find the endzone at HOME isn't enough to make Capers look good, I doubt Mitchgod will have any issue.

Quote (DeShaunWatson69 @ Nov 7 2017 10:19pm)
what happened to Dix?!

its just mind boggling :wacko:


He "made" the Pro Bowl on a technicality and has been overrated long before that. Alabamaplayer/10

He's plenty good, but has never been strong in coverage as people made him out to be.
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If 2 weeks to prep against a Lions offense who had almost 500 yards and were unable to find the endzone at HOME isn't enough to make Capers look good, I doubt Mitchgod will have any issue.



He "made" the Pro Bowl on a technicality and has been overrated long before that. Alabamaplayer/10

He's plenty good, but has never been strong in coverage as people made him out to be.


i fig'd :angry:

when u had peppers, he was lookin godly.

This post was edited by DeShaunWatson69 on Nov 7 2017 10:23pm
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Nov 7 2017 10:27pm
Quote (Cheesehead @ Nov 7 2017 11:22pm)
If 2 weeks to prep against a Lions offense who had almost 500 yards and were unable to find the endzone at HOME isn't enough to make Capers look good, I doubt Mitchgod will have any issue.



He "made" the Pro Bowl on a technicality and has been overrated long before that. Alabamaplayer/10

He's plenty good, but has never been strong in coverage as people made him out to be.


we dont have a golden tate to expose martinez.
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Nov 7 2017 10:28pm
Quote (Rust_Ninja @ Nov 8 2017 12:27am)
we dont have a golden tate to expose martinez.


that was nasty. :drool:
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Nov 7 2017 10:32pm
Quote (Cheesehead @ Nov 7 2017 08:17pm)
I thought the Rodgers-is-hurt crutch would be the reason people keep their jobs, but Aaron doesn't play defense and the T.O.P. differential was 90% the defense not being able to get off the field and less so about the offense continuing drives. McCarthy is too successful to be fired but the defense has never looked worse. Not one area looks promising and I've never seen them lose control of third downs like that. Unacceptable. I'd gladly have tank season if it means we can try and correct some of the obviously exposed wounds within the team.


When players come and go, yet nothing ever changes, it definitely spells out that there's a bigger issue than just the players.

Are they trying to force players into that Def scheme, rather then building the scheme around the players? Are the players they're acquiring just flat out not good? Is the scheme just flat out not any good?
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Nov 7 2017 10:37pm
Quote (Hako @ Nov 7 2017 10:32pm)
When players come and go, yet nothing ever changes, it definitely spells out that there's a bigger issue than just the players.

Are they trying to force players into that Def scheme, rather then building the scheme around the players? Are the players they're acquiring just flat out not good? Is the scheme just flat out not any good?


The only good thing about the "system" we have in place is that the limited variables let us see what's truly wrong because the core defense has been together for 3 seasons now. Players are being drafted for the scheme and it's just fucking awful. Datone Jones, Nick Perry, Randall and Rollins were all drafted because they fit the archetype of each position Capers was looking for. Randall and Rollins were multi-sport athletes that had more innings of baseball played between them than quarters of football. Natural athletes with no known character flaws that were grabbed early on. Perry and Datone were forced into the scheme when it was clear that neither were really comfortable in the role. Shit, Perry didn't even make a real impact until his contract year last season.

The players might have been talented and warranted the draft pick they got at one point, but this system and current roster isn't getting what they could from the young guys, and that's on the staff. That's the scheme, the coordinators and the scouts who help create the big board.

Time for change, Eric.
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