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Mar 3 2012 07:11pm
Quote (xnozx. @ Mar 3 2012 03:39pm)
We haven't even given Chase an offer yet..... feel bad for him that's messed up he should at least have a chance to compete for a spot


Goff wasn't the impressive, I think Chase could beat him out.
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Mar 3 2012 08:02pm
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Goff wasn't the impressive, I think Chase could beat him out.


Not a chance in hell, Goff was very impressive.

I don't know if you forgot but Goff was one of if not THE best run stoppers amongst ILB's in the NFL in 2010. He was also improving in coverage.

Last season was going to be his second year under the same defense.


If he's healthy he's a big part of our run defense.

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Mar 3 2012 08:07pm
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Not a chance in hell, Goff was very impressive.

I don't know if you forgot but Goff was one of if not THE best run stoppers amongst ILB's in the NFL in 2010. He was also improving in coverage.

Last season was going to be his second year under the same defense.


If he's healthy he's a big part of our run defense.



he was good at run stuffing (not even good, serviceable) because his spacing was extremely shallow and thats why we repeatedly got raped by TEs and WRs going over the middle around 15-20 yards deep
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Mar 3 2012 08:10pm
Blackburn was an animal this year, I can easily see him starting next year, with Goff rotating in.
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Mar 4 2012 03:18pm
Great post by someone on the Giants boards


http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2510355.aspx


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smith will be offered a contract, that i would bet on. reese offered plax a contract and what he did is 10x worse than what smith did.

mara said he personally regretted how the situation played out and that the giants wanted him back, that wasnt too long ago, so the giants FO are certainly open to it.

and smith isn't a top 10 wr, but he is (when healthy) a top 5 slot wr. to say otherwise is foolish and based on a personal dislike for him.
those that say he's done, screw him dont sign him, etc. are saying so based on personal reasons, which the giants have shown time and time again is not how they do business.

lets review some points:

SS had 109 receptions for the giants in 2009. when nicks and smith were on the field together, TEAMS DOUBLE TEAMED SMITH.
Smith and Eli were always on the same page.
Smith is excellent at reading defenses and running routes based on the d.
Smith is EXCELLENT at double moves, which allows eli to throw the ball before smith has completed his route, meaning eli will be able to throw to the open spot on the field when targeting smith.
Smith is going to be extremely cheap after losing his value on philly. he will be hungry to re-establish his worth, thus, will be expected to work very hard.
smith is the best option to replace MM based on knowledge of the offense, and success in this offense.
smith will be the cheapest, best upside signing at wr, a position we will need to add to.

all those reasons trump not signing him bc some fans have personal vendetta against him. thats the only reason i've seen anyone say not to sign him, based on a personal opinion.

what happened to "he earned the right to provide for his family and make the most money?" that doesnt apply to SS bc he went to philly?

if anything, fans should thank SS for going to philly. it saved us cap room, allowed for cruz to step up, and he wouldnt have even contributed bc the first year after his surgery, nfl players rarely ever have a good year. gmen knows about this and has proven this point time and time again.

i personally know for a fact SS regretted signing with philly, that he felt horrible about how the situation played out, and that he wanted and wants to be a giant again.

we know for a fact that mara and reese have said they regretted how the situation played out as well.

the writings on the wall, both parties have indicated they are willing to talk about working together again.

we have very lil cap room, and the absolute best option at cheapest cost is SS. He's going to be a giant, and when he apologizes for how things played out, and has a 10 catch 2 td game, everyone who said "he's done. no way do we want him back" will go "reese knows what he's doing and so happy SS is back home"
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Anyone think Diehl gets cut?
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Mar 4 2012 09:41pm
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Anyone think Diehl gets cut?


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Mar 4 2012 09:41pm
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Great post by someone on the Giants boards


http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2510355.aspx


Thanks for posting this. Excellent points are made here, but I really do hope he comes back. Their is so much talk sometimes it's hard to believe what a person's true intentions are. It really sucked how that situation with him turned out, but it's life. What can ya do. Him + Cruz and the way Eli plays now would be so devastating to other defenses.

What I meant by my Eli comment is, now he is such a different QB than when he first started that I feel if we give him more weapons/options that 3 WR's to score he is going to destroy teams.

Great news that Hix is back.

Any word on the Jacobs situation? I honestly think he is gone and imo should retire. He just isn't the same anymore.. :(
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Quote (Odysseus @ Mar 4 2012 09:41pm)
Thanks for posting this.  Excellent points are made here, but I really do hope he comes back.  Their is so much talk sometimes it's hard to believe what a person's true intentions are.  It really sucked how that situation with him turned out, but it's life.  What can ya do.  Him + Cruz and the way Eli plays now would be so devastating to other defenses.

What I meant by my Eli comment is, now he is such a different QB than when he first started that I feel if we give him more weapons/options that 3 WR's to score he is going to destroy teams. 

Great news that Hix is back.

Any word on the Jacobs situation?  I honestly think he is gone and imo should retire.  He just isn't the same anymore.. :(


giants
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Mar 4 2012 09:47pm
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giants
mavs
cards fan?


live in NYC so giants fan ofc. dallas fan cause of high school m8's. as for the knicks, that's a tough situation. i lost respect for them after the way they treated ewing, but it's getting harder to dislike them with all the knick love at my job and believe me i take heat for being a dallas fan.
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