Quote (Danny1024 @ Dec 4 2012 09:46pm)

would love montgomery or olgetree

you have both going around where the giants pick

works for me

Quote (Randolph @ Dec 4 2012 11:48pm)

When all is said and done, I don't think Ogletree will make it out of the top 15, def not the top 20.

And, with all of these talented pass rushers in this draft, some of them HAVE to fall a bit.

Quote (Randolph @ Dec 4 2012 08:18pm)

This one is a little more vanilla, but here it is.

Anyway, rate, hate, etc etc etc, can't wait to hear what you have to say. 


OK, I’m using the draft order provided by WalterFootball.com
( http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2013.php )

Round 1
1. Kansas City (2-10) – Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
2. Jacksonville (2-10) – Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
3. Oakland (3-9) – Star Lotuelei, NT, Utah
4. Philadelphia (3-9) – Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
5. Carolina (3-9) – Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State
6. San Diego (4-8) – Manti Te’o, LB, Notre Dame
7. Cleveland (4-8) – Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
8. Tennessee (4-8) – Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
9. Arizona (4-8) – Matt Barkley, QB, USC
10. Detroit (4-8) – DeMarcus Milliner, CB, Alabama
11. Buffalo (5-7) – Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
12. New Orleans (5-7) – Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
13. Miami (5-7) – Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
14. New York Jets (5-7) – Keenan Allen, WR, California
15. St. Louis (5-6-1) – Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
16. Tampa Bay (6-6) – Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
17. St. Louis - from Washington (6-6) – Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
18. Dallas (6-6) – Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
19. Minnesota (6-6) – Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
20. Cincinnati (7-5) – Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
21. Pittsburgh (7-5) – Alex Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
22. Seattle (7-5) – Robert Woods, WR, USC
23. New York Giants (7-5) – Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
24. Indianapolis (8-4) – Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
25. Chicago (8-4) – Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
26. Green Bay (8-4) – Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
27. Denver (9-3) – Johnathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
28. Baltimore (9-3) – Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
29. San Francisco (8-3-1) – Alex Okafor, OLB, Texas
30. New England (9-3) – DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
31. Atlanta (11-1) – Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
32. Houston (11-1) – Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech



Round 2
1. Jacksonville (2-10) – Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
2. Kansas City (2-10) – Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
3. Philadelphia (3-9) – Jonathan Cooper, G/C, North Carolina
4. Carolina (3-9) – Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
5. Cincinnati - from Oakland (3-9) – Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
6. Cleveland (4-8) – 2012 Josh Gordon
7. Tennessee (4-8) – David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
8. Arizona (4-8) – Barret Jones, G/C/OT, Alabama
9. Detroit (4-8) – Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
10. San Diego (4-8) – Dallas Thomas, OT/G, Tennessee
11. New Orleans (5-7) - Bountygate
12. Miami (5-7) – Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
13. New York Jets (5-7) – Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
14. Buffalo (5-7) – Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
15. St. Louis (5-6-1) – C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
16. Washington (6-6) – Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
17. Dallas (6-6) – Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
18. Minnesota (6-6) – Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
19. Tampa Bay (6-6) – Matt Elam, S, Florida
20. Cincinnati (7-5)- Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
21. Seattle (7-5) – Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
22. New York Giants (7-5) – D.J. Fluker, OT/G, Alabama
23. Pittsburgh (7-5) – Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma
24. Miami - from Indianapolis (8-4) – Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
25. Green Bay (8-4) – Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma State
26. Chicago (8-4) – Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
27. Baltimore (9-3) – Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington State
28. Denver (9-3) – Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
29. San Francisco (8-3-1) – Eric Reid, S, LSU
30. New England (9-3) – Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
31. Atlanta (11-1) – Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia
32. Houston (11-1) – Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina



Round 3
1. Kansas City (2-10) – Khaseem Greene, LB/S, Rutgers
2. Jacksonville (2-10) – Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
3. San Francisco - from Carolina (3-9) – Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
4. Oakland (3-9) – Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
5. Philadelphia (3-9) – T.J. McDonald, S, USC
6. Tennessee (4-8) – Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
7. Arizona (4-8) – Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida
8. Detroit (4-8) – Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
9. San Diego (4-8) – Alex Hurst, OT, LSU
10. Cleveland (4-8) – Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington State
11. Miami (5-7) – Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
12. New York Jets (5-7) – Travis Fredrick, G/C, Wisconsin
13. Buffalo (5-7) – Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech
14. New Orleans (5-7) – Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford
15. St. Louis (5-6-1) – Robert Lester, S, Alabama
16. Dallas (6-6) – Sean Porter, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
17. Minnesota (6-6) – Shayne Skove, ILB, Stanford
18. Tampa Bay (6-6) – Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State
19. Washington (6-6) – Margus Hunt, DE/DT, SMU
20. Cincinnati (7-5) – Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
21. New York Giants (7-5) – Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina
22. Pittsburgh (7-5) – Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
23. Seattle (7-5) – Cassius Marsh, DT, UCLA
24. Indianapolis (8-4) – Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
25. Miami - from Chicago (8-4) – Travis Long, OLB, Washington State
26. Green Bay (8-4) – Braden Hansen, C/G, BYU
27. Denver (9-3) – Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
28. Baltimore (9-3) – Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
29. San Francisco (8-3-1) – Zac Dysert, QB, Miami of Ohio
30. New England (9-3) – Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
31. Atlanta (11-1) – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
32. Houston (11-1) – Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State


Previous mocks:
v1.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65243377&f=204&o=0
v2.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65360987&f=204&o=0
v2.1 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65435021&f=204&o=0
v3.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65466957&f=204&o=0

Quote (thundercock @ Dec 4 2012 09:53pm)

Hate it.  Chargers are fine on defense.

Quote (EGucci @ Dec 4 2012 08:24pm)

He's a scrambling type...We will find out depending on what team he ends up with I suppose. If the team is fit for his style or if he can adapt and such.

Quote (Randolph @ Dec 4 2012 08:56pm)

BPA in the first and then OL the rest of the way, how can you hate that? lol

First round, especially that early, you pretty much have to go BPA.  After that, address your OL need with two talented picks.

Quote (thundercock @ Dec 4 2012 10:08pm)

Maybe they'd trade down then?  The Chargers defense is stacked with a lot of young talent.  The only aging players we have are Spikes and Jammer.

Quote (Grizzy_Green @ Dec 4 2012 10:09pm)

Iso some Bjoern Werner slipping to the Giants. Wouldn't mind cheering on a former opponent of mine 

Quote (lifehouse @ Dec 5 2012 12:19am)

what are the chances of geno smith being a bust?
is he as good as rg3 or newton? or completely different player

i know nothing about him