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Oct 24 2023 06:37am
I’m not for cheating but isn’t watching the other team play something that every team has scouts doing? I mean there are a bajillion camera angles on TV. I didn’t read much into it but I assume the sign stealing or whatever occurred during practices and not actual games
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Oct 24 2023 10:15am
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I’m not for cheating but isn’t watching the other team play something that every team has scouts doing? I mean there are a bajillion camera angles on TV. I didn’t read much into it but I assume the sign stealing or whatever occurred during practices and not actual games


It did not occur during practice. Basically you can't have official funding to go to opposing team games and record etc. This is because richer schools would have an advantage and this is what's being investigated.

Heard allegedly they were going to vote and get rid of that rule though because it is a digital age and there isn't much advantage these days?
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Oct 24 2023 12:14pm
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It did not occur during practice. Basically you can't have official funding to go to opposing team games and record etc. This is because richer schools would have an advantage and this is what's being investigated.

Heard allegedly they were going to vote and get rid of that rule though because it is a digital age and there isn't much advantage these days?


Anyone can just play back a game and look over the film and see the signs. Aren’t most of the schools in d1 considered rich? I get some schools are obviously richer than others. Seems like an outdated rule.
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Oct 24 2023 12:29pm
If only they made helmets with speakers inside of them
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fucking paywall <_<



The sign-stealing investigation threatening to disrupt Michigan’s football season began after an outside investigative firm approached the NCAA with documents and videos the firm said it had obtained from computer drives maintained and accessed by multiple Michigan coaches, according to two people familiar with the matter, evidence that suggests the scandal’s impact could broaden beyond the suspension of one low-level assistant.
These people spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about an ongoing NCAA investigation. They did not disclose who hired the outside firm that approached the NCAA. The NCAA, the Big Ten and Michigan declined to comment.
Last week, the Big Ten confirmed published reports that the NCAA was investigating allegations that Michigan had sent people connected to its football program to attend the games of opponents and videotape coaches as they signaled in plays, in violation of the rules that govern college football. Michigan suspended Connor Stalions, a football assistant ESPN reported was suspected of overseeing the alleged sign-stealing operation. Coach Jim Harbaugh, in a statement, denied any knowledge of or involvement in any such scheme.
While NCAA rules do not explicitly prohibit sign-stealing — the practice of decoding signals opposing coaches use to send in play calls to players on the field — the organization does ban video-recording opposing coaches, as well as in-person scouting of upcoming opponents. And according to the investigation conducted by this outside firm, Michigan football has been utilizing a sign-stealing operation involving both in-person scouting as well as video-recording coaches, these people said, since at least last season, when the team went 13-1, winning a second consecutive Big Ten title before losing in the College Football Playoff semifinals.
The outside firm’s investigation began this season, these people said, and involved interviews with people knowledgeable about Michigan football’s scouting operations, as well as reviewing documents and videos related to sign-stealing efforts. Last Tuesday, these people said, this firm presented its evidence to top NCAA officials. The next day, the Big Ten later confirmed, the NCAA informed both the conference and Michigan that it had opened an investigation.
Stalions played a major role in overseeing and coordinating sign-stealing efforts, the outside investigation found, but the firm’s evidence suggested he wasn’t acting alone. The outside firm did not present any evidence directly linking Harbaugh to the sign-stealing operation, according to the people with knowledge. In the days since Stalions’ name circulated as a key figure in the investigation, videos and photos circulated on social media taken during Michigan games showing him standing near coaches, including the team’s defensive and co-offensive coordinators.
Among the pieces of evidence the firm presented, these people said, was a detailed schedule of Michigan’s planned sign-stealing travel for the rest of this season, listing opponents’ schedules, which games Michigan scouts would attend, and how much money was budgeted for travel and tickets to scout each team.
The opponents targeted the most on this schedule, these people said, were not surprising. Atop the list was Ohio State, Michigan’s top rival in the Big Ten, and scouts planned to attend as many as eight games, costing more than $3,000 in travel and tickets. Next on the list was Georgia, a potential Michigan opponent in the College Football Playoff, with four or five games scheduled for in-person scouting and video-recording, also costing more than $3,000 in travel and tickets.
In total, these people said, Michigan’s sign-stealing operation expected to spend more than $15,000 this season sending scouts to more than 40 games played by 10 opponents. According to the university’s public salary disclosure records, Stalions, listed as an administrative specialist in the athletics department, made $55,000 in 2022.
Stalions did not reply to a message left at a phone number listed to him seeking comment. Stalions is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy and a captain in the U.S. Marine Corps who started working as an analyst for Michigan football last season, according to a profile from January 2022 published on the website Soldiers To Sidelines.
The outside firm also presented to NCAA officials photographs of people investigators believed to be Michigan scouts in action — including current students interning with the football team. The photos showed these people seated at games of Michigan opponents this season, aiming their cellphones at the sidelines. Days later, the outside firm told the NCAA, cellphone videos depicting the coaching staffs from these games were uploaded to a computer drive maintained and accessed by Stalions as well as several other Michigan assistants and coaches.
No timeline has been disclosed for when the NCAA could conclude its investigation. Harbaugh, in his statement, said he and his staff will “fully cooperate” with the NCAA investigation. The news came just months after an earlier NCAA investigation of Michigan concluded with a finding that Harbaugh violated recruiting rules and failed to cooperate with investigators. The university suspended Harbaugh for three games at the beginning of this season as a result.
On the field, Michigan again is competing for a national title under Harbaugh, with an 8-0 record. Last Saturday, the team’s first game since allegations of sign-stealing emerged, Michigan thrashed Michigan State, 49-0. Currently on a bye week, the Wolverines’ next game is at home against Purdue on Nov. 4.

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Oct 28 2023 04:03pm
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Agree 100% but gosh darn it we have THE team this year. :cry:


Quote (TRiG @ Oct 24 2023 07:17am)
fr. looking like the team and year to pull it off..


Even if they did steal signs, you still have to stop it. Just sucks its now, and I do think the NCAA has a hard on for Harbaugh. They were after him for buying a hamburger for fucks sakes.
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Oct 28 2023 04:06pm
Michigan isn't going to be DQ'd from CFP this year. They will continue to dominate and will likely compete for a championship. Go Fuckin Blue
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Nov 1 2023 10:11am
https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/just-when-you-thought-it-couldn%27t-get-weirder-stalions-cmu-sidelines

This is too funny if y'all haven't seen it yet. Allegedly Stalions disguised himself to get onto CMU sidelines. I think it's been debunked but still so funny
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Nov 3 2023 09:48am
B10 commish been pressured to apply some sort of punishment when it is ALL media based accusations with no findings. Tough that michigan has been bound to not speak on the matter.
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