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May 9 2023 01:38pm
Quote (Izzo4Rizzo @ May 9 2023 08:45am)
The Justin Fields overhype this preseason is insane lol


You see what he did last year?
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May 9 2023 02:05pm
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ May 9 2023 02:38pm)
You see what he did last year?


Yep

He’s not going to ascend to a top 5 or even top 10 qb this season though lol

This post was edited by Izzo4Rizzo on May 9 2023 02:06pm
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May 9 2023 02:13pm
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ May 9 2023 02:38pm)
You see what he did last year?


Even Jordan Love can put up efficient and godly stats against prevent defense

Doesn’t mean shit when the games matter
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May 10 2023 11:14am
Quote (MildSambal @ May 9 2023 04:13pm)
Even Jordan Love can put up efficient and godly stats against prevent defense

Doesn’t mean shit when the games matter


Guy is an idiot. He doesn't actually understand what he's watching :wacko:
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May 10 2023 11:28am
Quote (Vtrix @ May 10 2023 01:14pm)
Guy is an idiot. He doesn't actually understand what he's watching :wacko:


pretty sure neither you or MildSimple watched any bears games.
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May 10 2023 12:25pm
Quote (Kimiko_tan @ May 10 2023 12:28pm)
pretty sure neither you or MildSimple watched any bears games.


I have Fields on my keeper league so I watch him enough to get a feel for his value going forward.

His stats underrate the progress he’s made this past season as well as the true threat of his legs. However, I think people are undervaluing just how bad he’s been in must-throw situations. He holds the ball too long and gets sacked a smidge more often than you’d like to see. A lot of his passing yards accumulated have been against prevent defenses because the game is out of reach.

The comparison I see for him is Hurts, a guy that came in as a runner but also in throwing when the offense moved outside the pocket. Fields fits that mold perfectly, the next step for him is better utilize his legs when plays go off-schedule as a way to open throwing windows. Part of that is chemistry with with receivers, part of that is just developing a better pocket presence and learning the correct way to escape. The Bears line, coaching, and WR core don’t do a lot of favors for him at the moment.

His physical traits are incredible, and he’s shown flashes of what we want to see, but it’s similar to the NBA where people just assume guys will develop their jumper, it’s not a given that Fields makes those strides. If he does progress his pocket awareness and accuracy then he has every tool to be as good as Lamars MVP year.

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May 10 2023 01:37pm
Quote (Vtrix @ May 10 2023 10:14am)
Guy is an idiot. He doesn't actually understand what he's watching :wacko:


Lol, my football comprehension is off the charts KID. How about you provide some rationale for your opinion? Why are so many salaried analysts wrong and you are right? Let's hear it.

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Quote (MildSambal @ May 10 2023 11:25am)
I have Fields on my keeper league so I watch him enough to get a feel for his value going forward.

His stats underrate the progress he’s made this past season as well as the true threat of his legs. However, I think people are undervaluing just how bad he’s been in must-throw situations. He holds the ball too long and gets sacked a smidge more often than you’d like to see. A lot of his passing yards accumulated have been against prevent defenses because the game is out of reach.

The comparison I see for him is Hurts, a guy that came in as a runner but also in throwing when the offense moved outside the pocket. Fields fits that mold perfectly, the next step for him is better utilize his legs when plays go off-schedule as a way to open throwing windows. Part of that is chemistry with with receivers, part of that is just developing a better pocket presence and learning the correct way to escape. The Bears line, coaching, and WR core don’t do a lot of favors for him at the moment.

His physical traits are incredible, and he’s shown flashes of what we want to see, but it’s similar to the NBA where people just assume guys will develop their jumper, it’s not a given that Fields makes those strides. If he does progress his pocket awareness and accuracy then he has every tool to be as good as Lamars MVP year.


We seen this with Josh Allen already. It doesn't mean Fields is a lock, but I remember all the same shit being said about Allen and then wow suddenly "#1 QB". I'm not saying Fields will be the #1 QB, but top 5 is definitely do-able for him this year.
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Quote (Izzo4Rizzo @ May 9 2023 01:05pm)
Yep

He’s not going to ascend to a top 5 or even top 10 qb this season though lol


Bet me...

FF standard scoring Fields ranks inside the top 10

0.04/Y Throwing
0.1/Y Rushing
6.0/ Rushing TD
4.0/ Passing TD
-1.0/ Fumble
-1.0/ Interception

My 1k vs your 750 CD
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May 10 2023 01:42pm
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ May 10 2023 02:37pm)
Lol, my football comprehension is off the charts KID. How about you provide some rationale for your opinion? Why are so many salaried analysts wrong and you are right? Let's hear it.

Vtrix are for kids.

We seen this with Josh Allen already. It doesn't mean Fields is a lock, but I remember all the same shit being said about Allen and then wow suddenly "#1 QB". I'm not saying Fields will be the #1 QB, but top 5 is definitely do-able for him this year.


Based on what tho? Mooney wouldnt be the #1 WR for a lot of teams. Maybe like 6 teams total would have him as the #1 guy. The coach is just meh. The line is just meh. Really love their RBs tho.
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May 10 2023 01:44pm
Quote (MildSambal @ May 10 2023 12:42pm)
Based on what tho? Mooney wouldnt be the #1 WR for a lot of teams. Maybe like 6 teams total would have him as the #1 guy. The coach is just meh. The line is just meh. Really love their RBs tho.


Their line is going to be mid, but that's a big improvement from last year.

DJ Moore is a pretty big addition to their receivers. Mooney isn't the #1 on the Bears any more.

You're right to love their RBs.
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