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Apr 14 2020 06:46pm
Quote (Queefy @ Apr 14 2020 12:46pm)
:rolleyes:

"I hate trump, he's such an asshole discriminatory bigot"
"Trump is old and fat and deserves to die"

solid logic we got going in here.



There’s nobody dumber than a current Trump fanboy. I’ll even forgive those who have seen the light and now see him for the fool he is, but supporting him today? Yikes.
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Apr 14 2020 07:30pm
Trump is going to win.

Biden is an extremely weak candidate.

I mean come on.... That is the best the party can do?

First Hillary, now Biden. A half decent candidate would destroy Trump but they can not even bring that to the table.

Dems deserve another loss in my opinion.

Look how many faults Trump has. This should be an easy win but the Democratic party is woefully incompetent.... Even more so than Republicans.

Honestly I should not complain about our political system as much when our Neighbors have Creepy Joe and The Donald as the candidates.

Really think the people deserve better.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Apr 14 2020 07:36pm
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Apr 14 2020 07:52pm
Quote (Killingyouall @ Apr 14 2020 06:30pm)
Trump is going to win.

Biden is an extremely weak candidate.

I mean come on.... That is the best the party can do?

First Hillary, now Biden. A half decent candidate would destroy Trump but they can not even bring that to the table.

Dems deserve another loss in my opinion.

Look how many faults Trump has. This should be an easy win but the Democratic party is woefully incompetent.... Even more so than Republicans.

Honestly I should not complain about our political system as much when our Neighbors have Creepy Joe and The Donald as the candidates.

Really think the people deserve better.


what rattles me is that Trump could realistically die in his second term, so the Dems pick someone else who could also die in office... and his best competition for the dem nomination will probably die or be invalid between 2020 and 2024

america is fucked lol.

although frankly I don't think the people deserve any better. maybe I'm being anti-American here but I say this as a dual citizen. when you're a global military-corporate empire but you only give a shit about whether you're hurting fellow countrymen, you don't deserve better.

This post was edited by Hizkuntza on Apr 14 2020 07:54pm
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Apr 14 2020 07:54pm
I don't know much about American politics, or politics in general, but isn't there some kind of election to determine which candidate will represent the parties ?
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Apr 14 2020 08:20pm
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I don't know much about American politics, or politics in general, but isn't there some kind of election to determine which candidate will represent the parties ?


yeah, and it's very corrupt
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Apr 14 2020 09:05pm
Quote (StayPositive @ Apr 14 2020 05:46pm)
There’s nobody dumber than a current Trump fanboy. I’ll even forgive those who have seen the light and now see him for the fool he is, but supporting him today? Yikes.


Im not defending anything, honestly i couldnt give a shit either way.
Politics dont tend to be my thing, just pisses me off when people give reasons why they hate him and then turn around and show that exact same behavior they just condemned another person for. Its hypocritical and flat out dumb.
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Apr 14 2020 09:10pm
Quote (StayPositive @ Apr 14 2020 09:07am)
Lots of people voted for him as a joke. For memes, and YouTube Clinton conspiracy videos and other bullshit. Turns out elections have consequences, and now his obese and older voters are going to choke and cough themselves to death because of him and his absolute ineptitude as president.


Lots of people voted for him because the idiotic democratic party continues to nominate the only people on the planet that wouldn't beat trump in an election
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Apr 14 2020 09:17pm
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Lots of people voted for him because the idiotic democratic party continues to nominate the only people on the planet that wouldn't beat trump in an election


100%

He should be very easy to beat. Just need a half decent candidate. That has not happened.
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Apr 14 2020 09:39pm
Quote (Killingyouall @ Apr 14 2020 08:17pm)
100%

He should be very easy to beat. Just need a half decent candidate. That has not happened.


well that's the problem with the 2-party system. if one races to the bottom, then the other can technically race to the bottom too and face only mild consequences. problem is that it's R or D not only in every government level but also for most side elections like for state treasurer and supreme court. and money rules in the US, so...

good thing in Canada there are viable choices that threaten the liberals/conservatives all the time, and if one party strays too far they get pummeled or split like the Liberals in 2011 and the Tories during the 90's. even though FPTP sucks ass our system is not terrible.

This post was edited by Hizkuntza on Apr 14 2020 09:39pm
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Quote (Hizkuntza @ Apr 14 2020 08:39pm)
well that's the problem with the 2-party system. if one races to the bottom, then the other can technically race to the bottom too and face only mild consequences. problem is that it's R or D not only in every government level but also for most side elections like for state treasurer and supreme court. and money rules in the US, so...

good thing in Canada there are viable choices that threaten the liberals/conservatives all the time, and if one party strays too far they get pummeled or split like the Liberals in 2011 and the Tories during the 90's. even though FPTP sucks ass our system is not terrible.

Quote (Hizkuntza @ Apr 14 2020 06:52pm)
what rattles me is that Trump could realistically die in his second term, so the Dems pick someone else who could also die in office... and his best competition for the dem nomination will probably die or be invalid between 2020 and 2024

america is fucked lol.

although frankly I don't think the people deserve any better. maybe I'm being anti-American here but I say this as a dual citizen. when you're a global military-corporate empire but you only give a shit about whether you're hurting fellow countrymen, you don't deserve better.


It is an outcome far too likely..... That seems to be the trend in politics though. You frequently have men in their 70's in positions of power. Death or mental incapacity is a noted possibility.

Even in our legal system the most common reason for disbarment is mental incapaciation. It makes you wonder how many cases decided by a judge, or individual counsel designated to represent individuals were not mentally sound handling matters of such importance.

As for your late statement, I will leave it alone because I can not respond to it in a few sentences. That is a very complex issue and if I were to express my opinions on that statement it would be very drawn out.


As for the two way race. It is merely an illusion of choice. I don't see enough change happening with either party. For the most part it will remain status quo.

By the time a politician ascends the hierarchy he/she is bought and paid for at least to some degree. Joe Biden was one of the poorest senate members when he began his career.... Now it has been stated he made over $15 million the past couple of years.

Maybe I am cynical but with the way the system is set out you need to raise millions to run a campaign. The bulk of that money comes from sources with a vested interest in manipulating the guy they threw money at.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Apr 14 2020 10:21pm
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