Its better to cut down to 8-10% bodyfat before I bulk , opposed to bulking at 15% BF. this way I can bulk for 3 months , cut for 1 and maintain under 12% bf the entire year.

ahhh I see. Glad I have not gone crazy. At least not in this instance.

Out of curiosity what % body fat would you figure your average young man would have.

10% bf is around the level of a pro athlete or so?

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Jan 6 2014 08:57pm

I'd say the average male is around 20% thinking about the people I know.

Also depends on the sport , Id say hockey players vary from 10-20 honestly.

This post was edited by dirTyMan on Jan 6 2014 08:58pm

Hockey players with 20% bf? Fuck that lol.

Byfuglien? 20% really isnt that big if the fat is spread out throughout the body, most people you know who are 20% have a massive midsection hence why you think 20%=fatty

Byfuglien is a special case, nobody is really close to him tbh. I still doubt these guys are at 20%

I can definitely see a few of the really big guys having 20% and being able to pass the physical tests

You overestimate 20% BF. Some of the big guys could easily be 20%.

20% is not that much.

In other news, Walmart has six star protein isolate (1.5lb tub) and protein blend (2lb tub) for $10.97 in Canada, very cheap.

The problem with that is supplements aren't regulated that "25 G" of protein could really be 2 G , thats why I try and stay away from powders in general.