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Aug 23 2017 04:33pm
Quote (LuLer @ Aug 23 2017 02:31pm)
Might be a blessing in disguise if he leaves for a year. Better chance you finish last and win the lottery. You guys aren't going to be doing much this year anyway so it doesn't really matter :P

He'll still be Wings' property when he returns.


You know i somewhat agree, i was thinking this same thing after my last post. However, letting him walk for a year might not be the best option seeing as Mantha and Larkin are due for contracts next season, so next season adding athansiou into that mix might not be the best idea. I think if we can rid ourselves of one bad contract (Ericsson ideally, or Abdelkader, Helm) before the season starts i think it would be much more beneficial to sign him to just a 2 yr bridge deal and work on it then after we figure out if Mantha and Larkin stay and what contracts they get after this season.
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Aug 23 2017 05:07pm
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You know i somewhat agree, i was thinking this same thing after my last post. However, letting him walk for a year might not be the best option seeing as Mantha and Larkin are due for contracts next season, so next season adding athansiou into that mix might not be the best idea. I think if we can rid ourselves of one bad contract (Ericsson ideally, or Abdelkader, Helm) before the season starts i think it would be much more beneficial to sign him to just a 2 yr bridge deal and work on it then after we figure out if Mantha and Larkin stay and what contracts they get after this season.


It'll be tough to move any of those unless you give up quite a bit along with it (not just a 2nd round pick).

All three are depth players at best (is Ericsson even a legit NHLer anymore?) with multiple years left on their deals and the lowest is Helm @ 3.85

Giving up the necessary picks would also suck for the Wings seeing as those picks will likely be high over the next few seasons.

Holland has really shit the bed over the last handful of years lol.
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Aug 23 2017 05:17pm
Quote (LuLer @ Aug 23 2017 04:07pm)
It'll be tough to move any of those unless you give up quite a bit along with it (not just a 2nd round pick).

All three are depth players at best (is Ericsson even a legit NHLer anymore?) with multiple years left on their deals and the lowest is Helm @ 3.85

Giving up the necessary picks would also suck for the Wings seeing as those picks will likely be high over the next few seasons.

Holland has really shit the bed over the last handful of years lol.


Yeah i agree, it will be hard, if possible at all. But i could see some interest in Helm and MAYBE Abdelkader. Helm's speed is his best asset but he is made of glass. Abdelkader doesnt shy away from dirty play and parking his fat ass in front of the net, he just has to get better at deflecting the puck, not just screening the goalie. However this last season for whatever reason Blashill wouldnt put him in front of the net, i cant stress enough that is where he belongs. However moving Ericsson is near impossible, and he would be best bought out, or LTIRetire. iirc the buyout on Ericsson would be like 2m/yr for the next two season and 1m/yr for the following 4, much easier to do and beneficial to the team rather than giving up a pick and prospect to take him, yet Holland missed his window twice already this season to do that and will have to wait... It really is sad it has gotten to this point. Holland has lost his marbles and if we dont finish last in the league (and come away with a top 3 pick in the lottery) or make it to atleast the 2nd round of playoffs i would imagine its his last year (hopefully). Blashill should be on the chopping block as well, that guy is the Kaepernick of hockey, he is a college coach, not an NHL coach and needs to stop coaching the team as if were playing in the NCAA..

/e ofc we will have to package pick/prospect with helm/abby to get a deal done, which is why im still dumbfounded why an Ericsson buyout was passed up twice now this offseason. What is wrong with the Rex Wings front office that they cannot see Ericsson does not bring anything to the table outside of playing the most NHL games of any player that was final pick in their draft? (Not an accomplishment if you are garbage.)

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Aug 24 2017 09:05am
So what's the asking price on AA? Why hasn't there been an offer sheet? Holland can't match it his hands are tied.

I'd be a nice guy and offer them a 3rd and a mediocre prospect and make Holland kiss my feet

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So what's the asking price on AA? Why hasn't there been an offer sheet? Holland can't match it his hands are tied.

I'd be a nice guy and offer them a 3rd and a mediocre prospect and make Holland kiss my feet


Well, its really hard to say tbh. The situation is this: while i like AA, he really has to work on his 200 foot game. He is just Okay in his own zone, and like ~80% of his offensive production is generated off the rush, he has to get better at sustained offensive pressure, not just scoring on fast breaks. That is where his precieved value comes into play, he (and his camp) seem to believe he is worth more money than he actually is, because he is fast and makes the flashy plays and occasionally embarasses defenders, but in reality if he wants the big bucks he has to work on his 200ft game. Until then in my opinion he will be worth no more than 2m/yr. Of course each team will have their own evaluation of what he might be worth, but the way i look at it is he is holding out based on the percieved notion he is better than he actually is.

/e There has been no report of the $ figures offered to him by Detroit or the russian team, but apparently he has declined the Red Wings offers, based on the fact he thinks he deserves more.

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Well, its really hard to say tbh. The situation is this: while i like AA, he really has to work on his 200 foot game. He is just Okay in his own zone, and like ~80% of his offensive production is generated off the rush, he has to get better at sustained offensive pressure, not just scoring on fast breaks. That is where his precieved value comes into play, he (and his camp) seem to believe he is worth more money than he actually is, because he is fast and makes the flashy plays and occasionally embarasses defenders, but in reality if he wants the big bucks he has to work on his 200ft game. Until then in my opinion he will be worth no more than 2m/yr. Of course each team will have their own evaluation of what he might be worth, but the way i look at it is he is holding out based on the percieved notion he is better than he actually is.

/e There has been no report of the $ figures offered to him by Detroit or the russian team, but apparently he has declined the Red Wings offers, based on the fact he thinks he deserves more.


not sure what they offered but ican see him asking for way too much with all these other guys getting overpaid already
but really his speed is his only positive hes not a great player if he wasnt fast he likely wouldnt even be in the nhl

shitty situation to be in

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Quote (AU5TIN @ 24 Aug 2017 12:05)
Well, its really hard to say tbh. The situation is this: while i like AA, he really has to work on his 200 foot game. He is just Okay in his own zone, and like ~80% of his offensive production is generated off the rush, he has to get better at sustained offensive pressure, not just scoring on fast breaks. That is where his precieved value comes into play, he (and his camp) seem to believe he is worth more money than he actually is, because he is fast and makes the flashy plays and occasionally embarasses defenders, but in reality if he wants the big bucks he has to work on his 200ft game. Until then in my opinion he will be worth no more than 2m/yr. Of course each team will have their own evaluation of what he might be worth, but the way i look at it is he is holding out based on the percieved notion he is better than he actually is.

/e There has been no report of the $ figures offered to him by Detroit or the russian team, but apparently he has declined the Red Wings offers, based on the fact he thinks he deserves more.



His feet are faster than his brain it's pretty common knowledge, but teams these days are valuing speed above everything else a lot of the time.

I can see him getting 3.5, obviously not in Detroit, I'm very surprised nobody has tried something yet, I'm sure there has been some interest though

He would be a perfect Senator because our entire team basically creates everything off the rush lol

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His feet are faster than his brain it's pretty common knowledge, but teams these days are valuing speed above everything else a lot of the time.

I can see him getting 3.5, obviously not in Detroit, I'm very surprised nobody has tried something yet, I'm sure there has been some interest though

He would be a perfect Senator because our entire team basically creates everything off the rush lol


agreed lol, i think he is perfect trade bait tbh, and i think he should have been the first person offered a contract extension, and then dealt for pick(s).

Teams value his greatest asset and at a young age there is room to improve,
instead in true Detroit fashion mismanagement has left us in this situation of losing him for pennies on the dollar to an offer sheet or playing in the KHL this season.

It really is sad how the mismanagement of assets has left this team in shambles with no way of fixing it. lol.
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Aug 28 2017 08:17am
The Boston Bruins have offered restricted free-agent David Pastrnak a long-term contract with an average annual value of $6 million, according to Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe.
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The Boston Bruins have offered restricted free-agent David Pastrnak a long-term contract with an average annual value of $6 million, according to Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe.


Seems a bit high, he's great, but idk about 6 mil great, at least just yet... but thats just me i guess lol. They got the cap space, and they value him that much already, then i guess they go for it lol.
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