Surprised to hear Friedman say Garland is out there. Linking a team directly the way he did (NJD) scares me.

I feel like we need more players with spunk like Garland, not less.

If both he and Miller are gone, this team will have zero spine at forward.

Top-6 does need a shake-up though, too many guys taking turns playing passenger.

Bottom-6 also needs to be built essentially from scratch, especially if Motte is gone.

im glad demko stole a point for the shitty team effort. Analytically the best 5v5 defensive team in the league, yet only 3sog til half game while allowing 20+ lmao

I dont think Garland will get traded, it doesn't make sense unless he demands to be out or the haul is extremely crazy.

Finally have a great 4th line that essentially plays like a 3rd line/matchup role with Motte/Highmore/Lamiko. However if Motte needs a big raise, it's just better to let him go. Lockwood plays a similar style & also as fast, looked good in preseason for 2 years now, hopefully he can make the team next season.

I don't like hearing all of the trade talks right now.

There is still an outside shot this group can make the playoffs.

Wait until the deadline is a little closer to make a decision.

One thing that does need to be learned is you can not let assets walk for nothing.

Markstrom and Tanev in particular should have netted a decent return. If it is obvious the team is not making the playoffs and the players with expiring contracts will likely not resign you need to make a move.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Jan 30 2022 10:29am

we're low % to make the playoffs, sitting at 10% right now. even if we're not too far behind points wise there are too many teams ahead of us. the level of play is not inspiring enough to gamble on a run, the defense in particular is way too terrible to hold up on a deeper run. selling is the right thing to do.

who should we sell? miller is the obvious one because he will 100% walk to sign with a contender after next season. and idgaf I'd also move Petey for a defenseman, if his value hasn't dropped among GMs. and I'd say OEL but no one is taking that contract without a king's random to go along with it, we just have to accept him as Jimbo's final fuck you to the franchise.

This post was edited by Hizkuntza on Jan 30 2022 12:20pm

Nothing special about making playoffs in a weak ass pacific division, if a contending team is desperate for Miller, they'll pay the price. There is no ppg forward available that can play all situations and win faceoffs, for his cap hit. Let alone 2.6m if 50% retained which is godtier, not to mention they get 2 chances with him. Alternatively, the new team can trade him AGAIN for his final year.

OEL isn't worth moving, especially if you gotta pay a premium to move him. He's much more valuable eating up the matchup minutes and sheltering for Hughes to do his thing than have the other team just focus on Hughes non-stop like last season.

Players like Poolman, Hamonic, Dickinson, Halak, maybe even Pearson should be moved imo.

except Halak, are any of them even net positive? maybe we could give Pearson away. the other three, idk.

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Miller has really stepped up his play. At the start of the season he was a turnover machine.

His stock has certainly shot up and with this teams history of losing assets for nothing I don't have a problem trading him for a big return.


The problem is I am tired of these half ass rebuilds. It has been going on for 10 years and I don't want to see it repeat.

Don't just tear it down. Flatten any existence of the previous structure if that is what is needed. The issue is how do you do a full rebuild when you have guys like Hughes, Demko, Petey, Boeser, Horvat etc?

It's not like anyone wants to wait around for more restructuring so it always seems as if the Canucks have to keep what they have and try to get somewhere even if they are not good enough to do so.


Just feel this team is trapped either way. Don't want to sound negative but I don't see a clean way to go about bringing this team to an elite level.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Jan 31 2022 09:07pm

yeah I share the frustration but the current situation is a result of an administration that only lived for the next day. the core is solid but the cap is maldistributed, the depth is shit and the cupboards are empty. the team is middle of the road on a good day and it isn't getting better on its own. trading Miller when his value is at the highest possible could be the key to turning the team's fortunes around, we desperately need to make trades that add value over time.

Different situations,

you do a full rebuild when you know your core is too old and you either sell them for huge return or let them retire. Aquaman picked the later.

When Benning came in, he had an aging core, with no prospect pool and aquaman fired Gillis for trying to do a full rebuild. He had to draft his core, all while trying to go for another last run for the sedins and aquaman.

JR doesn't have to do a full rebuild because the core is established now and they're still young & yet to reach their potential. The goal now is to add players to compliment them when they hit their prime in 2-3 yrs so they can actually contend. Literally like Florida, they were held back by lots of shit despite having a promising core, and made tough decisions and added bunch of complimentary players to their core, and with barkov/huberdeau/ekblad entering their primes, they look amazing. Had they kept hoffman,dadonov, and yandle etc. by extending them to help them in short term but fuck em over long term, they wouldn't be where they are today nor have a long window to contend.

This post was edited by Secksii on Jan 31 2022 09:47pm