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Feb 15 2021 04:15am
Do you guys remember Gillis's open letter before he got fired and left the org?

“We believe in our talented group of prospects, including Bo Horvat, Nicklas Jensen, Frank Corrado, Dane Fox, Brendan Gaunce and Hunter Shinkaruk, who will be part of our short- and long-term success.”

Jesus. Other than horvat... The canucks would've been a joke the past decade and longer for sure if he stuck around and didn't heavily change up the draft team.

Compare that core to the current one with Hughes, boeser, Demko, Petey, horvat, Hoglander, maybe even Podkolzin. I'm excited to see how the future holds up, Lind is doing great, I think he will be another motter in the bottom 6. Although I get the feeling seattle will take Motte or Lind.

This post was edited by Secksii on Feb 15 2021 04:16am
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So apparently canucks are the first d core to hit 40pts lmfao. Thx to Hughes and myers.

Do you guys remember before Hughes joined the team, the Canucks barely had any help from the back end? Even if they had great forwards putting up points, it was literally just edler producing in the back.

Another game the Canucks threw away. At least boeser managed to get the team a loser point out of it. Missing motte pretty bad, that first goal cuz virtanen couldn't get it out was oooof. I think it's really time to give up on him, I could care less if he turns into Kassian 2.0 on a different team, I never seen a team give so much chance, patience, and privilege and a player barely make anything out of it. Not scoring or whatever is fine, but the fact that he gives it like 50% effort is what pisses me off. The kid gets drafted to his home town, has the speed, size, shot to make the most of his career, yet he just cruises. Then there's like stecher who gives it 500% every night cuz he has to in order to stay in the NHL. Quite sad

I think brown needs to shuffle the pp1 line, like I'd definitely play Hoglander over miller at this point. Seems like he fumbles every single puck or ends up turning it over. Might as well promote the most consistent player on the ice and see what happens. Miller must be hurt or something, takes far less faceoffs but it's good for peteys development. Now's the time to do it

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Feb 16 2021 03:56pm
podkolzin has a concussion gg.

https://twitter.com/chrisfaber39/status/1361737248442519552?s=21

dirty late hit straight to the head
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Feb 17 2021 05:18am
Fun stat

Only the Canucks and Jets have five players with at least twelve points, no other team in the league has more than four. One month in, these two teams incredibly have identical point shares in their top five scorers: Quinn Hughes and Mark Scheifele both have 18 points, Brock Boeser and Nikolaj Ehlers with 16 apiece, Kyle Connor and J.T. Miller have put up 13 points, and all four of Bo Horvat, Elias Pettersson, Blake Wheeler, and Andrew Copp have 12 points each.

But the Jets dont look as bad as Lolnucks. To be fair, the past few games against the Flames the Canucks actually look like a team instead of the earlier shit show of players skating around cluelessly
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Feb 17 2021 04:08pm
Last 4 games have been pretty solid for the most part.

This team would look pretty good if Benning had any idea whatsoever on how to build a defence and not lose good players that are willing to stay for cheap because he can't control himself when he has cap space.

We've thrown away EP and Hughes ELC years. Not that it means we can't win going forward, but more shrewd management in the early years of the rebuild would have had us be a good team now instead of waiting another 1.5 years+

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Last 4 games have been pretty solid for the most part.

This team would look pretty good if Benning had any idea whatsoever on how to build a defence and not lose good players that are willing to stay for cheap because he can't control himself when he has cap space.

We've thrown away EP and Hughes ELC years. Not that it means we can't win going forward, but more shrewd management in the early years of the rebuild would have had us be a good team now instead of waiting another 1.5 years+


Yeah he done well upfront, but all the dmen that were on this team since the decade are just sad. Aside from Hughes, there's literally nobody from draft that established themselves. Thank God the one player he hit ended up being a jackpot though. I still think Rathbone will be legit, he's really raw rn but with some pro exp he will no doubt be solid imo.

I'm not gonna complain too much about the d core now, as it's immensely better than the past although that bar is low af. It's too bad edler is showing signs of aging, unlike last season. However he's still solid and has great stats with Schmidt as a reliable 1st pairing shutdown pair. I can see him signing cheap 1 year deals with the canucks until he feels ready to retire, as he never seemed interested to leave vancouver. I wouldn't mind if tryamkin came back after this season and replaced Benn to play either depth pair or try him with Hughes as his skating is damn good for someone big to keep up with Hughes. He will at least be better than Benn haha, as he pks too. Juolevi and myers looks great together, I'm glad juolevi is starting to establish himself as a NHL dman even if it's just 6d for now. Looks much better than chatfield at least in my eyes.

3 practices with full rest in this 4 game series against the Flames, opposed to like only 2-3 practices w/ half rests in btwn for like the first 15 games. Fricken night and day difference. Practice?! - iverson

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Feb 19 2021 04:56am
So it's pretty clear the fans, media, coach and the org seems to have ran out of patience with virtanen. 1 pt in 15 games, nvm the point totals but his lack of effort, and dumb penalties etc.

Benning should know that he fucked up by signing him now, so he should man up and buy him out if he is in a tough spot trying to sign Petey, Hughes, and Demko end of this season. Even though it will look bad for buying a player out just months after signing him lolol. At this point, it won't even matter since everyone knows he has made several bad contract signings and decisions anyway.

Other teams may believe his stock is all time low and have the canucks add to shed virtanens cap. However he's under 26, so that means the cap hit penalty will be only 50k for next season, then 500k the year after. which is basically nothing. Shedding 2.5mil out of 2.55 is the way to go, no need to add for trades, especially if no other teams wanna give away better bottom 6 players or picks.


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For players 26 years or older, a buyout forces teams to pay two-thirds of the remaining base salary once signing bonuses have been paid in full. So if you buy out a 28-year-0ld defenceman with one year left at a $3 million salary, for example, the club will owe him $2 million spread over two years ($1 million per year).

If the player is younger than 26 at the time of the buyout (like Virtanen would be), then the NHL CBA mandates that the team is only on the hook for one-third of the remaining salary. In Virtanen’s case, his base salary for 2021-22 is $3 million once his $400,000 signing bonus has been paid out. One-third of $3 million means that the Canucks would owe him $1 million split over two years ($500,000 for 2021-22 and 2022-23 respectively).

That $500,000 times two years is the salary the Canucks would owe, but because Virtanen’s contract is backloaded, the cap hit clocks it in at a much lower rate.

To calculate the buyout cap hit, you start by taking Virtanen’s original cap hit ($2.55 million) and subtract the original base salary ($3 million), which amounts to negative-$450,000. That number gets added to the buyout salary ($500,000) and you have your hit of $50,000 — that’s how much he would cost against the cap in 2021-22.

In essence, this means that a Virtanen buyout would clear $2.5 million of his original $2.55 million cap hit. He would cost $500,000 the year after in 2022-23, so that’s the crucial consideration, but when you look at the Canucks’ roster they need the flexibility in 2021-22 far more than they need it in 2022-23.





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Feb 19 2021 10:52am
I do think Virtanen could do better elsewhere. The whole schtick of being a big shot in his own pond really got to his head. Trade him to Winnipeg and his attitude is going to change real quick because if he pouts he'll be on a Manitoba Moose bus.
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Feb 20 2021 01:39am
Miller is playing like a fucking asshole. Only way to describe it.
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Feb 20 2021 01:54pm
Spending 2.5M or whatever on Virt when you needed every single dollar available to sign other players that are actually valuable to the team is just another feather in Benning's dunce cap.
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