Quote (Rzi @ Aug 27 2020 09:18pm)

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Quote (Killingyouall @ Aug 27 2020 09:26pm)

The argument will be that George Floyd was compliant and was still killed via police brutality.

The group of bad apples that demonstrated such poor judgement and murdered a compliant man will haunt all police officers.


Now that there has been such media saturation in regards to incidents of police brutality, incompetence, cruelty and poor judgement all officers are behind the eight ball before they start their shifts.

While it is appropriate to shame and punish officers who clearly act inappropriate it has spilled over to the point competent officers can no longer effectively perform their duties without unjust scrutiny.


I love to see a 'bad' cop go down in flames and get exposed when they get out of line. Accountability of law enforcement is great.


However you now have video that clearly shows a man; who, regardless of background is a known violent offender resisting arrest.

Other methods are attempted first and are either ignored or do not work to subdue the man. Officers, based on the situation and background they have regarding the individual make a quick (but informed) decision to terminate a situation that would

have likely ended in violence toward themselves or other innocent parties had the man in question been able to continue.



What state of mind do you have to be in to think that no harm will be done to you if you ignore a group of officers and resist arrest when firearms are pointed at you after other methods to subdue you have failed?

Based on what I have seen this is 'suicide by cop'. The most likely outcome was to killed and the individual decided to resist arrest, disobey orders, and escalate the situation by attempting to enter a vehicle and reach for an object.

Of course that is what is going to happen.


I swear with the way the media reports the incidents coupled with the narrative and the groups involved it makes me feel like this entire angle is some sort of sick orchestration played out by numerous parties to get us all to turn on each other.

Furthermore the narrative dictates the 'privileged' should have no say in the matter because they don't know what its like to be marginalized. Somehow we should all just feel guilt and shame automatically without questioning anything.


Pisses me right off. Instead of unity we have more divide than ever.

Quote (Nearin @ Aug 28 2020 12:05am)

Police have a legal obligation to identify the weapon before they have a right to lethal force.

Cops have a hard and scary job, no doubt, but cops cannot be allowed to use lethal force for reaching outside of their line of sight.

If you live in a country where people who look like you get killed by cops regardless of their compliance why comply?

Did you listen to sheriff? He s calling for the life time jailing of undesirables such as people who have too many children...........

Quote (eboo92 @ Aug 28 2020 05:10am)

The media and court of public opinion is making it impossible for the police. Everyone is so quick to judge and react to a situation before getting all the facts. The majority of cops take the job because they want to help people. I truly believe that as I am one myself. But of course as in all jobs there will be some that slip through the cracks. I don’t know how you fix it because it’s impossible to know who is actually a bad person when they lie through their interviews. It would be great if there was more training but it’s a huge expense, especially in a department like mine that has 40,000 cops.

All I can say is just be a good person. The world is a better place when you’re kind to one another.

Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Aug 28 2020 06:37am)

If it was a gun, the time needed to visually identify that would likely mean a bullet in an officer.

There are bad police. They deserve punishment.

However, in this specific case, anyone who can watch the full video and not immediately think that it waa suicide by cops is being blind to reality.

This was the equivilant to having guns pointed at you and frantically reaching into your pants. Watch how he storms angrily away from 3 officers who have tased him and have guns drawn and immediately reaches for something under his seat. Suicide.

Do you honestly, truly believe if a white man with his history of violence towards police had been in the same spot and acted the same way he wouldn't have been shot?

215 white people shot to death by police in 2020 vs 111 black. In fact, half of all people killed by police in the US are white. Granted, blacks are disproportionately high compared to their population... but not when compared to what percent of their population commits violent crimes.

In fact, when looking at murder statistics, even with only 13% of the population, blacks commit 25% more murders than whites. Given that white people are 65% of the US population this means that 213,000,000 white people commited 25% fewer murders than 43,000,000 black people.

1 in every 6300 black people will murder someone
Vs
1 in every 41,000 white people.

6x more likely. Not a fun stat

I mean you can bend any stat you want to suit your needs.... but Im sure if you did a study on the number of white vs black cop shooting compared to the number of white and black violent criminals as a percentage of total population, you would see the real answer.

Has anyone seen a single news story on one of those 215 white deaths? ONE? Wonder why.

Bad people making bad decisions put officers in life or death situations. Officers will always try to save their own lives, as we all would.

Pointing out facts is racist, though. Best to all sit back and let the left steamroll us into hating each other.

Quote (eboo92 @ Aug 28 2020 04:10am)

The media and court of public opinion is making it impossible for the police. Everyone is so quick to judge and react to a situation before getting all the facts. The majority of cops take the job because they want to help people. I truly believe that as I am one myself. But of course as in all jobs there will be some that slip through the cracks. I don’t know how you fix it because it’s impossible to know who is actually a bad person when they lie through their interviews. It would be great if there was more training but it’s a huge expense, especially in a department like mine that has 40,000 cops.

All I can say is just be a good person. The world is a better place when you’re kind to one another.

Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Aug 28 2020 04:37am)

If it was a gun, the time needed to visually identify that would likely mean a bullet in an officer.

There are bad police. They deserve punishment.

However, in this specific case, anyone who can watch the full video and not immediately think that it waa suicide by cops is being blind to reality.

This was the equivilant to having guns pointed at you and frantically reaching into your pants. Watch how he storms angrily away from 3 officers who have tased him and have guns drawn and immediately reaches for something under his seat. Suicide.

Do you honestly, truly believe if a white man with his history of violence towards police had been in the same spot and acted the same way he wouldn't have been shot?

215 white people shot to death by police in 2020 vs 111 black. In fact, half of all people killed by police in the US are white. Granted, blacks are disproportionately high compared to their population... but not when compared to what percent of their population commits violent crimes.

In fact, when looking at murder statistics, even with only 13% of the population, blacks commit 25% more murders than whites. Given that white people are 65% of the US population this means that 213,000,000 white people commited 25% fewer murders than 43,000,000 black people.

1 in every 6300 black people will murder someone
Vs
1 in every 41,000 white people.

6x more likely. Not a fun stat

I mean you can bend any stat you want to suit your needs.... but Im sure if you did a study on the number of white vs black cop shooting compared to the number of white and black violent criminals as a percentage of total population, you would see the real answer.

Has anyone seen a single news story on one of those 215 white deaths? ONE? Wonder why.

Bad people making bad decisions put officers in life or death situations. Officers will always try to save their own lives, as we all would.

Pointing out facts is racist, though. Best to all sit back and let the left steamroll us into hating each other.