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Aug 16 2013 09:00pm
Quote (KrWWW @ Aug 16 2013 10:59pm)
there wasn't an all-star game and this was his first year..


NHL.com posted all-star lineups iirc
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Aug 16 2013 09:03pm
Quote (Galchenyuk @ Aug 16 2013 10:46pm)
Price was average at best last year and theres no way to tell wether or not hes gonna perform next year. You're only as good as your last fight season



No, he's not. Not right now at least.


Quote (dxlightning @ Aug 16 2013 10:47pm)
Lulz. He was average this year and before 2011. He had a couple elite-ish years but isn't established at all. I want him to succeed as much as you but he has absolutely not reached that level yet.
Brian Elliott would be an elite goalie by those standards, just saying. He had one good year. Ignore the .855 years he had before it.


ok then quick and rinne arent elite? all 3 goalies have similar regular season stats. apart from quick winning the Stanley cup, what would separate them from being elite or =/= elite? if we go by absolute proven elite goaltenders how many can we honestly name? brodeur? no one thinks miller is elite anymore because of a bad season or two? yet hes been solid as fuck during many parts of his career. is lolungo even considered elite anymore? he almost shit the bed during the olympics in 10' and he shit the bed during the SCF.

i understand goalies go through slumps, totally agree that can tarnish their status, but when i say elite, i dont mean it as in price is an absolute elite goaltender. i mean it as in hes got what it takes and compared to the rest of the goalies over the last few years hes been one of the biggest if not the biggest impact on his team during his career.

yea he had a bad year, 48 games isnt even quite a year. i think over time if he didnt get injured he couldve had a good chance to bounce back. when brodeur had that horrible start to the season 2 years back, no one was calling for brodeur status to be changed. he bounced back over time because hes elite.
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Aug 16 2013 09:05pm
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ok then quick and rinne arent elite? all 3 goalies have similar regular season stats. apart from quick winning the Stanley cup, what would separate them from being elite or =/= elite? if we go by absolute proven elite goaltenders how many can we honestly name? brodeur? no one thinks miller is elite anymore because of a bad season or two? yet hes been solid as fuck during many parts of his career. is lolungo even considered elite anymore? he almost shit the bed during the olympics in 10' and he shit the bed during the SCF.

i understand goalies go through slumps, totally agree that can tarnish their status, but when i say elite, i dont mean it as in price is an absolute elite goaltender. i mean it as in hes got what it takes and compared to the rest of the goalies over the last few years hes been one of the biggest if not the biggest impact on his team during his career.

yea he had a bad year, 48 games isnt even quite a year. i think over time if he didnt get injured he couldve had a good chance to bounce back. when brodeur had that horrible start to the season 2 years back, no one was calling for brodeur status to be changed. he bounced back over time because hes elite.


stop homering
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Aug 16 2013 09:06pm
Quote (KrWWW @ Aug 16 2013 11:05pm)
stop homering


right, all star.
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Aug 16 2013 09:11pm
Quote (Galchenyuk @ 16 Aug 2013 22:00)
NHL.com posted all-star lineups iirc


That's what I remember, at least.
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Aug 16 2013 09:13pm
there's literally no way crosby wouldn't get first line center this year
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Aug 16 2013 09:14pm
Quote (KrWWW @ 16 Aug 2013 22:13)
there's literally no way crosby wouldn't get first line center this year


Maybe it was 2nd line, or maybe it just wasn't kadri, but that name is really sticking out to me. I remember being appalled when I saw it.
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Aug 16 2013 09:17pm
Quote (pcgamingred @ 16 Aug 2013 22:03)
ok then quick and rinne arent elite? all 3 goalies have similar regular season stats. apart from quick winning the Stanley cup, what would separate them from being elite or =/= elite? if we go by absolute proven elite goaltenders how many can we honestly name? brodeur? no one thinks miller is elite anymore because of a bad season or two? yet hes been solid as fuck during many parts of his career. is lolungo even considered elite anymore? he almost shit the bed during the olympics in 10' and he shit the bed during the SCF.

i understand goalies go through slumps, totally agree that can tarnish their status, but when i say elite, i dont mean it as in price is an absolute elite goaltender. i mean it as in hes got what it takes and compared to the rest of the goalies over the last few years hes been one of the biggest if not the biggest impact on his team during his career.

yea he had a bad year, 48 games isnt even quite a year. i think over time if he didnt get injured he couldve had a good chance to bounce back. when brodeur had that horrible start to the season 2 years back, no one was calling for brodeur status to be changed. he bounced back over time because hes elite.


I really can't think of a time where either Rinne or Quick had a slump like Carrey.
MAYBE Quick in his rookie years?
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Aug 16 2013 09:22pm
Quote (tim226 @ Aug 16 2013 10:14pm)
Maybe it was 2nd line, or maybe it just wasn't kadri, but that name is really sticking out to me. I remember being appalled when I saw it.


http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=676355

dont see kadri there
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Aug 16 2013 09:22pm
Quote (tim226 @ Aug 16 2013 11:17pm)
I really can't think of a time where either Rinne or Quick had a slump like Carrey.
MAYBE Quick in his rookie years?


wtv, were arguing over the definition of elite, which can go on forever.

if hes not elite to u, then so be it. hes elite to me, and if that makes me a homer, then so be it.
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